Not afraid to shoot strangers


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28 December 2006

Fear of Strangers: The rise in random killings indicates a disturbing increase in violence

There has always been a peculiar sort of comfort in the knowledge that, in the context of a relatively low murder rate, we [in the UK] are all more likely to be killed by a lover or spouse than by a stranger. To die at the hands of a stranger seems, somehow, even more horrifying. So today’s discovery by The Times, that random killings have increased by a third in just eight years to the point where they now equal the number of murders carried out as crimes of passion, is alarming.

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The figures must be kept in perspective. Stranger murders, which rose from 99 in 1997 to 130 last year, still account for less than 10 per cent of the annual total. But the increase certainly puts reassurances about crime levels in a different light.

The increases have been largest in London, and Devon & Cornwall. It is not clear what these two regions have in common, except large numbers of disaffected young men who seem to be the most common perpetrators and also the most frequent victims.

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The similarities between the approach taken by Greater Manchester Police and those in New York City are striking. In both places, police have made enormous headway by taking a zero-tolerance approach to criminal gangs and petty crime, and by backing grassroots efforts to lure young men away from both.

Interesting that they actually deign to note that men are more likely to be the victims of this rise in seemingly random homicide. But also note that they point out that it is likely to be “disaffected young men” carrying out such crimes. Indeed, although women are quite capable – and, these days, more than willing – to be violent, it cannot be denied that men are more likely to be behind these random acts of melees, mayhem, murder and mischief. Women are certainly increasingly violent too, often hanging out in gangs and getting up to yobbishness. However, it seems a majority are men and boys, and more importantly “disaffected young men.”

These men are disaffected how? And why?

I dare say being told from childhood onwards, by teachers, lecturers, the media and politicians that they’re nothing but a bunch of violent potential rapists, nothing but scum, nothing but walking wallets and sperm donors, fit for fuck all but being extorted for maintenance for ex-wives and common-law-wives and child-support, or – if you manage to avoid being embroiled legally with a woman – harvested for taxes for slag single mothers, and maybe being called up to serve as cannon-fodder in times of war, but otherwise nothing but a piece of shit male good for nothing compared to Almighty Females, is probably a fair reason why more and more young men of Britain are disaffected and pissed off, resorting to the nihilistic void of drink and random violence.

What the fuck else is there to do for so many young men? Behave, get a job, marry and raise children? Hah! Yeah, maybe we had such ambitions when we lived in a Patriarchy, something our forefathers spent generations creating, but thanks to a couple of generations of feminists and their motherfucking mangina political lackeys, that’s all kinda been flushed down the toilet here in the West. Along with our civilisation as well of course, because Patriarchy essentially is civilisation.

Without a Patriarchy, us humans are just reduced to a Matriarchy, a state of non-society whereby we’re just shaved monkeys, an atavistic mob where the females line up to get impregnated by whichever male can chase off the other males by hurling faecal matter, spears or bullets at them, whichever object happens to be nearby/invented. Don’t believe me? Visit your local inner-city single-mother dominated ghetto whereby almost every household is a woman and her various bastards by different (absent) fathers. Keep your car doors locked though. And don’t look anyone in the eye!

Then of course we have the feminized schooling system whereby girls are told how much better they are, encouraged to get careers, given women-only colleges/universities and scholarships, their own man-hating courses (Womyn’s Studies) and then positive discrimination in the workplace. Is it any wonder more boys just think “fuck it”, drop out and do as they please? If they’re treated as scum by teachers – who are overwhelmingly female and often hardcore feminists – then they’ll end up acting like scum out of sheer spite. And why bother working hard and being a good law-abiding citizen anyway? You’ll just get taxed to fund single mothers, obliged to work extra hard to cover lazy fucking career gals on their long career break, or could end up in prison for ten-years because you foolishly had consensual sex with a woman who’d had a couple of drinks and decided to accuse you of rape.

Today, in the Matriarchal West, a man can:

Work hard = get taxed to pay for single mothers, to essentially pay for his own redundancy

Be a nice guy = get ignored until the local slags want a sucker to help raise some thug’s bastard

Respect young women = never get laid, until she’s old and has been thrown aside by thugs

Love your country = get taken advantage by your cuntry

Criticise feminism = labelled a misogynist and sent to prison for ‘hate speech’

They also talk of weaning young men away from gangs. This is usually done by providing a strong male role-model where one was forever missing, namely replacing/substituting a dumb single mother slag with a stern yet understanding male authority figures. Rarely does anyone in the public eye dare point out that, before feminism gave the traditional family a well aimed kick to the gonads, virtually all families actually had a stern yet understanding male authority figure, namely a fucking father! Feminism has created and encouraged an army of single-mothers, with an appropriate army of boys with no fathers, who do what all boys do and seek a male role-model and the best that’s around is the local dealer or thief. And thanks to feminism ensuring that females are pampered should they get knocked up by a thug, there’s nothing to stop – indeed, there’s a lot of rewards, such as a free house – local girls from whoring around with the local thugs.

On a smaller scale there was a story on a BBC documentary a year or two ago about a teenaged boy raised by a single mum. He was always stealing cars, breaking into houses, drinking white cider and shit. A middle-aged man from a local youth club, an ex-policeman, volunteered to act as a mentor for the boy and just spent a few hours with him at weekends, taking him to do voluntary work like helping old folks or taking part in the clean-up of a local park. After a shaky start, the boy soon turned around and eventually ended up a charming model citizen, helping out at the old folk’s home long after his mentor had departed. The BBC raved about how cool this turn-around was but did not dare point out that the kid would probably have not been a wild little feral fucker in the first place had he actually had a father to guide him through life in the first place, rather than just some ill-educated Trisha-watching pissed up dumb cunt of a single mum.

These stranger-murders are, sadly, just the tip of the iceberg. No-one, least of all me, would be foolish enough to imply that life in a Patriarchy is a crime-free utopia, some sort of eternal Bedford Falls. But nonetheless, random violence, slackerhood, alienation and violent crime is clearly rising, and as is obvious to anyone with sensory organs it is in large part a result of “disaffected” young men, young men who have no purpose in life.

Feminism sought to remove us men’s purpose in life, to take away our position as head of our families, and the incentive for us to Be Nice. It proves the stupidity of feminists and those dumb enough to follow them that they fail to correlate their success in this very mission with the current trend of an increasing number of nihilistic, “disaffected”, binge-drinking, women-despising and violent young men who can’t find any purpose in their lives except to cause trouble.

Ah well. Who gives a shit?

posted by Duncan Idaho @ 7:40 PM
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At 8:04 PM, Sue said…

Matbe if men would settle down, get married, and actually work, they might not have so much spare time on their hands. Too many of you guys sit around playing your computer games while society falls apart, and then you wonder why no woman will date you.

Get real.

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At 8:50 PM, Anonymous said…

cuntry

Haha, gotta remember this one.

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At 8:55 PM, Duncan Idaho said…

Matbe if men would settle down, get married, and actually work, they might not have so much spare time on their hands.

Did you bother to read the actual points I made? Namely that women are largely not worth marrying, that working means being taxed to pay for our own redundancy in the form of funding single-mothers, and that marriage is just far too risky with regards to being divorced and booted out our homes and our children’s lives? Did you bother taking any of this on board?

Furthermore, I don’t “wonder why no women” will date me, because first of all I don’t fucking want to date modern Western Women anymore, and secondly, if any women don’t want to date me I know damn well why; I’m not prepared to sacrifice my free time to work every waking hour to fucking support her.

Women should be wondering why no men want to marry them. Oh, wait, they do, and they decide us men are “afraid of commitment.” Sure, whatever.

If you’ll excuse me, I have some spare time to play computer games.

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At 9:24 PM, Nilk said…

Sue, rather than blaming men for it all, how about trying another perspective.

It takes two to make and one to break a relationship from what I’ve seen and experienced, and it doesn’t matter a stuff what gender we are talking about.

The problem as I see it is that the system is highly biased against men in damned near every direction. This encourages the abuses of the institutions of marriage and parenting.

Statistically, it is women who are more likely to initiate a divorce. Statistically, women are more likely to get custody of the children and all the assistance.

The courts don’t care about what is best for the child, even with mountains of data now available proving what we all knew anyway – children need two parents (preferably biological) to grow into stable, successful adults.

I don’t mean successful in a fiscal sense, either. I mean as in confident, happy, self-sufficient and independent. Able to form meaningful relationships with other adults.

With regards to the topic, I will disagree with Duncan on blaming the feminazis for all of this.

I’d place it under the socialist/multiculti umbrella. Looking at worldwide trends, I have my own suspicions as to what could cause the rise in this, and I lean towards a portion of society who don’t like the western world. Well, apart from what they can get from it, of course.

That tends to be the case in plenty of other countries where violent crimes seem to be spiking.

The feminists have definitely contributed, but don’t blame them for another group taking advantage of the fractures they’ve wrought.

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At 9:58 PM, prudhomme said…

Hahaha, that “sue”-skank just shows that the typical woman isn´t even able to read properly. Sue, it´s all in your head, really. While you live in Phantasialand we men see the real world and the real causes of the mayhem around us. But we actually couldn´t care less, b/c the western women made their own beds and now complain that it´s not nice and comfy anymore… cry me a river, skank!

prudhomme

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At 10:30 PM, pissed off with delusional wymyn said…

Sue!

How are men expected to settle down when women during their most fertile years don’t want to marry us because they’re more interested in their careers, independence and having fun rather than marriage?

Take this all too commonly heard woman’s example for instance.

“Unlike most of the women at my hospital, I wasn’t doing IVF because of an infertility problem. I was undergoing treatment for a social problem: I didn’t have a man. I’d spent my 30s single, sad and increasingly alarmed at the prospect of my declining fertility. I was terrified that due to the inconvenient fact of not having fallen in love at the right time, I was destined to wake up alone for another decade, maybe even forever.”

Awwwww diddums. You need a big hug. Why don’t those lazy, useless men “step up to the plate” and meet their “responsibilities”?

But wait! Further into the article she say’s:

“From the ages of 14 to 29, I’d had a series of long-term relationships with great guys, people I’d loved and respected, who seemed to feel the same way about me. Those relationships hadn’t led to marriage, but aged 25 and 26, I hadn’t expected them to, and I certainly didn’t regard that as failure.”

Could it be that it was YOU that didn’t want to get married in your 20’s because you wanted to enjoy your career, your independence and just having fun maybe?

“None of my unions ended traumatically, I tootled on with my life until the next ‘right-ish’ bloke turned up. Until I hit 29, and no one else arrived. As I slid uneasily into my mid, and then late-30s, with no Prince Charming on the horizon to rescue me, it dawned on me that I was facing fertility’s last-chance saloon.”

That’s what happens when you leave it to your mid 30’s or early 40’s to decide you now want one of those men you rejected in your 20’s.

They’re not there anymore.

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At 11:01 PM, Sue said…

Look, boys. I’m not a feminist and I don’t hate men. I’d very MUCH like to be married and start a family and I admit that I spent a lot of time furthering my career. What else should I do? Marraige is no guarantee these days and if I sat around waiting for a man to ask me, I’ll be an old maid. Can you imagine the pain in my heart when I see someone else’s baby and know that I might be denied that joy? Just for a minute open your heart just a bit and try and feel the agony I feel. An agony that haunts me every day and every night when I’m alone.

Try and look at it from my perspective, and I’ll try and see it from yours as well. Maybe we can all learn much.

I’m sorry if I came on too strong in my first posting.

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At 11:11 PM, Sue said…

Okay, I just read all of your comments, so maybe I can add a point. I do want to see it from your point of view.

I’m 29 (tick-tick) and it never hit me until recently. It was like being broadsided by a grizzly bear. I know men get screwed in divorce. It’s horrible.

BUT I DIDN’T DO IT!!!!!!!!

Why, oh why, am I, and other women like myself being forced to pay for the sins of other women? What did I do to deserve this? I’m not guilty of anything other than spending too much time in my work. I haven’t burned my bra, and I don’t support lesbian/feminism. Why should I have to spend my life alone? Do you know how many times I sit alone in the evening crying myself to sleep? Just to have a man’s arm around me? A baby reaching out to me? Someone to love me? To feel like I belong? To feel like I’m worth a damn to someone? To think that anyone, just anyone would shed a tear if I died?

Sorry. Gotta go. This hasn’t helped today.

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At 11:53 PM, Mamonaku187 said…

Preach, Brother Duncan Preach!

Damn that wasn’t the most scathing, raw, and dead on correct assessment of the situation I have ever read.

At my place of employment, everyone wants to know why there are so many murders (160+ so far for 2006) in my city. Everyone wants to know why angry young men are killing other men, women, and yes children, at an unprecedented rate.

Everyone wants to know why women are throwing their kids off of bridges, or microwaving their infants, or abandoning them in roach infested hellholes to fend for themselves.

Duncan has explained to you, in the most direct and hard hitting language possible, why that is.

And then trolls like Sue have the AUDACITY, in light of all the arguments presented, to actually post her insane dribble??

Un fucking believable!!

“Sue said…
Matbe if men would settle down, get married, and actually work, they might not have so much spare time on their hands. Too many of you guys sit around playing your computer games while society falls apart, and then you wonder why no woman will date you.

Get real.”

Let me translate this one fellas.

“Maybe if men would take this country by the force of arms, remove the right of women to vote, and order us to wear those oh so cool burkhas, then society wouldn’t be falling apart! I can’t wait for the new Anti Women codes to be legislated by the local tribal war council!!”

Women who don’t get it, or refuse to accept the reality of the situation at hand, will experience one hell of a rude awakening when the West falls to those darm Patriarchal terrorist types, or when the disaffected men of the West overthrow the current Matriarchal regime.

YOU need to get real.

And people like you are allowed to be citizens??

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At 12:11 AM, Anonymous said…

Matbe if men would settle down, get married, and actually work, they might not have so much spare time on their hands.

Sue,

Here is your free crash course in CAUSE-AND-EFFECT.

Before feminism what you wrote was relatively rare.

After feminism what you wrote has become relatively common.

Bumper Sticker:
When women start acting like ladies THEN men will start acting like gentlemen.

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At 12:17 AM, Anonymous said…

Too many of you guys sit around playing your computer games while society falls apart, and then you wonder why no woman will date you.

Too many of you gals sit around acting like sluts or pretending to be men while society falls apart, and then you wonder why no man will marry you.

(Sue: YOU really need to attend a special education course in cause-and-effect. Then maybe you will understand that women precipitated our current social disaster with the feminutzi movement starting in the 1970s).

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At 12:20 AM, Raymond said…

“I haven’t burned my bra, and I don’t support lesnian/feminism. Why should I have to spend my life alone? Do you know how many times I sit alone in the evening crying myself to sleep? Just to have a man’s arm around me? A baby reaching out to me? Someone to love me? To feel like I belong? To feel like I’m worth a damn to someone? To think that anyone, just anyone would shed a tear if I died? “

I sometimes feel unhappy that some of the casualties of the marriage strike might be women who are single and sincerely LIKE men (assuming you are being truthful, which I’ll give you the benefit of doubt).

That’s why responsibility falls on the women who can see through the lies of feminism to shake their sisters out of their madness. Women who do so actually are held in high regard (eg. Kelly Mac at awomanagainstfeminism, etc.)

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At 12:23 AM, Anonymous said…

Sue said, ‘BUT I DIDN’T DO IT!!!!!!!!

Why, oh why, am I, and other women like myself being forced to pay for the sins of other women?

Well Sue, I have never abused a child yet British Airways say that i can’t sit on one of their planes next to a child i don’t know. Have you and other women clamoured for this to be overturned?

As with most issues, people don’t give a stuff until it affects them. Look at the female pages of most newspapers and its full of me, me, me stuff men. Don’t hear women complaining about the crap that is put out.

Would you sign a lawful document that means if you separate from your boyfriend/husband then he can have the majority of your assets and deprive you of a relationship with your child on a whim??? Thats what your asking him to do.

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At 12:25 AM, The Man On The Street said…

Sue,

Tick-tock the mouse ran up the clock, then left. HE realized it had stopped and decided that it wasn’t worth his sweat and tears to look into it. And HE lived happily ever after.

Forgive me for not feeling all sorry and sad for you… actually, on second thought, don’t forgive me. I could care less how sad and lonely you are and how you cry (nice touch) at night. Tell it to the cats. You are preaching to the choir here.

Men feel more and more useless and unwanted each day. millions of men go to bed every night without the touch and puppy dog eyes of their children, just because he is male. many will never know the joy of an evening with their child, reading their first bedtime story together. All because the system considers a women to be the best parent. And women like you that “are not femikooks” don’t do a damned thing about it. So why should we help you? Chivalry? Uh-uh. Not gonna fly. You wanted to be treated like a big ole powerful corporate man, then take it like a man… Sucks don’t it.

You say:

“Why, oh why, am I, and other women like myself being forced to pay for the sins of other women? What did I do to deserve this? I’m not guilty of anything other than spending too much time in my work.”

Well Sue, you just answered your own question. Here, let me help you to see through all those tears a little…

Why, oh why, am I, and other men like myself being forced to pay for the sins of other men? What did I do to deserve this? I’m not guilty of anything other than spending too much time in my work. Why does the system automatically assume that because I spent so much time at the office, I am not a suitable parent? I was at the office so damned much because I thought that my wife and child needed me. Now the system says they don’t. Well, except for my wallet anyhow…. And women today are believing it! Sure, they may not be femikooks, but they sure as hell are enjoying the privies that the fems have ensured under the guise of equalahteee!

If it weren’t for men like me, the ex’s wouldn’t have anything to take!

I could go on and on, but… sniff sniff… I have something in my eye…

TMOTS

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At 12:26 AM, Anonymous said…

Duncan that was an incredible post! I consider myself to be very lucky! My parents were born in the early 1940’s, a generation before radical feminism took place. Thanks to their sacrifices executing their traditional roles beautifully, I am now one semester away from completing college.

If I didn’t have this backing, I could have easily been one of those guys who have nothing to lose and turn to violence. Sadly, I am watching the last generation fulfilling their true traditional roles in order to make their marriage and family succeed. Before radical feminism took place, their were special american women such as my mother who put her family first and would do what it took to make sure that her husband’s and children’s need were met. These days I have accepted the fact that those women in America no longer exist.

In my home state California, the crude divorce rate is 76.64%. At least 70% initiated by women.

You can lose everything due to a false abuse claim. (No proof necessary) Then you have outrageous alimony payments and you can kicked out of your house at any given moment.

Like Britain the women sill throw away their prime years to Bad Boys and Thugs and could careless about good hardworking men until their late 20’s when their looks are starting to go south.

Sue

Are you the same Sue that confessed to murdering a man on the Tom Leykis show because you had a hard time collecting child support?

Thank to blogs like Eternal Bachelor, I have found out what the truth is and the truth has set me free.

– Outcast Superstar

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At 12:36 AM, Anonymous said…

Sue,

You and other women are in a far better position than men to correct this situation.

You claim you are not a feminist, but don’t you mean “those” types of feminists (i.e., big, ugly, hairy, man-hating, lesbo feminists)?

You can still be a Lipstick Feminist or A La Carte Feminist (i.e., pick and choose those parts of ‘feminism’ that work to your advantage then discard the whole thing when your baby clock starts gonging like Big Ben or reach old age and discover being alone is really not that fun).

You can reach out to younger girls to show them what a scam feminism is. How they are going to be being duped out the joys of motherhood by a group of hardcore communists in the media, big business, academia, and government. Tell them your experience. How it feels when you reach 30 and wake up with a hangover, your looks gone, and your house empty of either a husband or children.

Women broke this. Women have to fix this.

If they want to…

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At 12:38 AM, Anonymous said…

Why, oh why, am I, and other women like myself being forced to pay for the sins of other women?

While the natural love that occurs between a man and a woman was being ganged raped by the feminists, were you silent or did you speak up?

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At 12:40 AM, Anonymous said…

I’m not guilty of anything other than spending too much time in my work.

Do you realize that you destroyed the ability of a man somewhere to start, raise, and support a family?

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At 12:46 AM, Anonymous said…

Do you know how many times I sit alone in the evening crying myself to sleep? Just to have a man’s arm around me? A baby reaching out to me? Someone to love me? To feel like I belong?

Yes.

That’s why many men have said that while feminism hurts men it ultimately destroys women.

Mother Nature’s revenge is a dish she takes her time preparing and serves cold.

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At 12:51 AM, Anonymous said…

Just for a minute open your heart just a bit and try and feel the agony I feel. An agony that haunts me every day and every night when I’m alone.

Why don’t you turn that agony into a horrific rage. Then unleash that rage on the feminists. Exterminate them.

The feminists are just communist fanatics in skirts and blouses anyways. God won’t shed a tear.

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At 12:57 AM, pissed off with delusional wymyn said…

Sue said… I’d very MUCH like to be married and start a family and I admit that I spent a lot of time furthering my career. What else should I do?

How about stop whining and blaming men for the choices YOU MADE!

If you want to have a career then great, have it.

If you want to have a family then great, get married and have it.

But so many women these days want to leave it to the last minute and when they can’t find a man to marry them at age 33/39 they start whining “it’s men’s fault…they don’t wan’t to commit”. WHAAAAAHHHHH.

Tough shit dumbass’s!

You made your fuggin “choices”.

Now stand by them.

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At 1:00 AM, Anonymous said…

I disagree with the enlightened women who post here. I’ve done things both ways: married young and had a traditional marriage, then found myself single at age 38.

After age 30, all the traditional girls are used up. 99% of women thereafter are cynical, spent and ready for someone to pay all the bills. The women just seem so used in every way; emotional, physical and mental. None of them are fit for a relationship.

The best a guy can do once he hits 30 is to get a vasectomy and simply use women for sport sex. Marriage after age 30 is completely stupid and will only harm a man and his financial interests.

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At 1:03 AM, Anonymous said…

Sue, what did we as men do to deserve this system ourselves? At least you women had a choice, you could have spoken up when you were younger, changed other women’s minds on how they were doing things, but you were quiet about it. Even now, you immediately began with shaming us rather than reading our points first, how can you claim you have no fault in this?

These “disaffected” men are actually the types of men that don’t play computer games, these are the men going after women in the first place. These murders virtually all come over women, not because some guy was playing a computer game.

Plenty of us men would have seriously considered marriage at a younger age, or a serious engagement. However, at those ages, women absolutely refused serious relationships. I myself could really only get one night stands, with girls telling me that I’m a nice guy and they don’t want to see me get hurt, and that all women are bitches. Amazing, women themselves tell me this, obviously women were willing to drop the feminist nonsense with me, warning me of other women, but they themselves wouldn’t change. So now, it’s years later, I have a career, but now I really don’t feel any serious draw anymore. I’ve been on my own for so long, I can’t imagine life with another person. I also lost my youthful confidence and developed more self-pride and self-consciousness, so I can’t approach women and say the things I know work the way I did when I was younger.

Right now, all women need to do is basically ignore anything that tells them they are “liberated” and instead of considering doing something for a man “degrading” think of it as supporting that man, realize that instead of degrading yourself, you are instead empowering yourself because you’re showing him how great of a person you are, that you have compassion and that you know what it means to have a strong bond with someone. I’ve had male friends that would be willing to die for me, who’d drop everything to help me out of my troubles, but somehow women think doing something like that means they’re somehow being mistreated. Those were strong friendships, and still are. A great marriage and relationship is basically a true friendship between a man and a woman. Feminism told you that isn’t the case. Common sense tells you otherwise. Stop watching tv, stop watching movies, stop gossiping with other women, and start reading or getting hobbies. You’ll quickly realize women are far, far, far greater than what feminism does to them, and you’ll realize men are far, far, far greater than what feminism tells you they are. Then come back here after you manage to do that, and join our cause against the women that have ruined everything. MGTOW and MRA does not exclude or hate women, it only, justifiably, hates feminism.

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At 1:49 AM, Anonymous said…

These men are disaffected how? And why?

I dare say being told from childhood onwards, by teachers, lecturers, the media and politicians that they’re nothing but a bunch of violent potential rapists, nothing but scum, nothing but walking wallets and sperm donors, fit for fuck all but being extorted for maintenance for ex-wives and common-law-wives and child-support, or – if you manage to avoid being embroiled legally with a woman – harvested for taxes for slag single mothers, and maybe being called up to serve as cannon-fodder in times of war, but otherwise nothing but a piece of shit male good for nothing compared to Almighty Females, is probably a fair reason why more and more young men of Britain are disaffected and pissed off, resorting to the nihilistic void of drink and random violence.

Don’t you think it’s far more likely that broken homes (broken because of feminism or otherwise) produce disaffected young men? I doubt teenagers even think about the things you mention, and even if they did, why would that drive them to utter self-destruction, especially at such a young age? You’re going way overboard, here.

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At 2:29 AM, Days of Broken Arrows said…

Hey Eternal,

Great post and you have a terrific point about disaffected boys needing role models. But I want to point something out to you.

Several years back scientists discovered something called the “wild gene,” which pops up in men who are likely to abandon kids, be unemployed, and drug addicted. Personality traits are very genetic, so even when good role models are provided, boys with this gene often wind up in prison.

How do I know? I raised one. No matter how much nurturing or guidance he received, he wound up being very similar to his biological father — who he had never met! Despite my best efforts, he is continues to get into trouble.

The answer to not having people like this in a society is that women should breed with more respectable men. This is what happened in the 1950s. Now they breed with badasses and we’re getting a society of criminals. I’ve tried to reason with such characters and they have a whole different way of thinking. They see life differently; prison is cool, school is not. Good luck, society.

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At 2:49 AM, Egghead said…

Sue, maybe you didn’t do it. But you sure as hell never lifted a finger to stop it, did you? I don’t recall hearing your voice denouncing the feminist hate movement. Did I miss it? Maybe you could show me the transcript of the debate you had with Andrea Dworkin, Susan Faludi, Linda Gordon, Marilyn French, or Robin Morgan?

Every so often, I give women a chance to show me that they’re “not like that.” Each time, they show me that they ARE, in fact, EXACTLY LIKE THAT. Spoiled, self-centered, rude, crass, obnoxious attention-whores who think less of a man’s feelings than they do of their cat’s kitty-litter.

As a man, I was designed to love women. Unfortunately, women have made themselves completely unloveable. I actually like myself a little too much to put myself through the abuse that marriage – or hell, even a relationship – with a woman would bring. I wanted very much to be a father. It took me a long time and a lot of grief to come to peace with the realization that I never would. I’m willing to take some of the blame for that, but certainly not all.

You know what, Sue? Your protests are too little, too late. You could be the most perfect woman on earth, and I still wouldn’t care to marry you, because your sisters have so abused my feelings for women that I have nothing left of them but unfeeling scar tissue.

I actually hope that you’ll find happiness, Sue. I hope that you’ll find some chu- er – Nice Guy – to marry you. But I’m certain it won’t be one of the men that frequents this site. And you certainly won’t attract a man by trying to shame him into liking you. Nothing is more certain to backfire.

~ Egghead

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At 3:00 AM, Anonymous said…

Duncan –

You are the best!

Angryharry on steroids!

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At 6:10 AM, ChicagoMan said…

Well Sue I have an answer for you.

I disagree that it takes two to break a relationship. All you need is one unwilling partner and it is over.

Most women these days are so obsessed with men and sex that they want want want a combination of prince charming and biker boy to sweep them off their feet. Guess what, that man doesn’t exist.

Sit down and watch TV or better yet go to the bookstore, look at the fiction, self-help and magazine sections. Women’s reading material obsesses so much on men and sex it isn’t even funny.

Most self-help books for women are in regards to weight loss and men. TV shows, dramas, soaps all have to do with unrealistic relationships. Magazines talk about hot guys and the list goes on. I won’t even get into romance novels…

Then look at the men’s sections what do you see as missing here? Well how about the almost complete lack of anything female.

Contrary to what you have been led to believe by the homosexual media, men DO NOT obsess about sex.

Most men would be ecstatic to be in a loving relationship with someone that cares about them, wants a family and that they can trust to not rape them in court.

This is missing in the modern woman today.

It isn’t men that are ruining society, it is women.

Women have unrealistic expectations of life and do not see things the way they really are.

I have no problem committing, nor do most men that I know of, the problem has always been on the female end of the relationship.

Until your sex understands compromise and sacrifice, you and many others are doomed never to experience the joys of having a stable family.

Is it your fault? Yes, by watching those TV shows, buying those books and magazines and not actively trying to do something about it such as educating other women you are just as a big part of the problem.

Truly if you want to make a difference, by all means do it, blogger accounts are free. Spread the message

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At 6:11 AM, ChicagoMan said…

Also I can not believe your comment about men not working.

Men do a majority of the workload (just look at income tax statistics) and are a minority of the population.

If there is anyone NOT pulling their own weight it is women. They are a majority of the population, contribute very little to the government, yet are the largest recipients of social programs, talk about leeches on society.

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At 6:21 AM, Cornholio Mangus said…

Come now Duncan, tell the truth.
Is this Sue character a shill?
She seems JUST A LITTLE too pathetic be real.

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At 6:42 AM, Anonymous said…

“The personal is political” – that ring a bell, Sue?

“My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”
– Marilyn French, in The Women’s Room

This is how society has made men of your generation feel all their lives, Sue. Best of luck to you in finding any empathy whatsoever from those who have been institutionally vilified by representatives of your sex.

And don’t you dare suggest for one second that feminists don’t represent you and your views; because you certainly never felt inconvenienced enough to stand up and protest their misrepresentations.

No; as your initial reaction clearly evidences, your default reaction is simply to keep blaming men.

In conclusion, there’s a little anecdote I want you to take to heart, Sue. I learned it from some people who greatly influenced my life. I don’t remember the exact wording, just the message; so bear with me:

“My feelings about women are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in her stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What she was, as a person, I mean, what her shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”

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At 7:30 AM, pete said…

Sue, you really are a rich one. First you claim that men are to blame for all this because of their computer games, then you turn around and cry that you are actually not really the rabid feminazi everyone thinks you are (including us, who have had the dubious pleasure of reading THREE of your posts) and you are actually alone and repentant.

You are NOT. You are just a skank with an entitlement complex who thinks that it is up to men to save you from ills of your own making.

You may not have burned your bra, but you have not stood against those who advocate radical feminism. You were happy to stuff your face with both hands at the meal, but when the check arrives you cry “But I have no money!!” Sorry sister, that isn’t the way the world works. You were all too happy “Go Grrls”ing to notice that boys were being shortchanged, too busy celebrating that great job to notice that men were being pushed out of the easy jobs, and now the bill is yours to pay.

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At 7:35 AM, HAWKEYE said…

TO SUE
believe us when we say we understand what you are going through,it is one of the reasons we hate feminism so much ,it destroys lives female and male,it ripps family’s apart it isolates and demonises,it is evil.
for us to kill this beast called feminism you have to suffer a bit more as we all are ,until the whole world says enough!!! and throws those lezo fugglys back to the swamps where they belong.
if you are interested in improving the lot of the modern female then i suggest that you help us kill this beast so that you can return to the traditional and respected role of wife and mother.
tell your friends”FEMINISM SUX”

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At 9:29 AM, Anonymous said…

Just for a minute open your heart just a bit and try and feel the agony I feel.

Try and look at it from my perspective, and I’ll try and see it from yours as well. Maybe we can all learn much.

Sorry, honey, no deal. For the last few decades (yes, it was a lot more than a minute) we have been FORCED to “open our hearts” and see the woman’s perspective, AND WOMAN’S PERSPECTIVE ONLY, while deliberately neglecting the man’s.

Enough.

I just don’t care about that anymore. You say you cry, you crave, etc – well, what can I say, bad luck? But tell me WHY THE HELL SHOULD I CARE?!?!?!?! What’s in it for me? I’d say after a couple of decades of being forced to care about fueeehlings of women I get to ask WHAT THE FUCK DO I GET IN RETURN?

Another law that is bound to screw me over?

Enough. ENOUGH!

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At 1:00 PM, Anonymous said…

Dear Sue
I don’t know if you are sincere or not. But if you are 29 than it is not necessarily too late for you.
Guys you own age will be looking for girls in their early twenties and even late teens for marriage.
Do not confuse sexual interest with willingness to marry. A lot of guys your age will want to have sex with you, but if you truly wish to marry and have kids now look for an established man in his late thirties/early forties.
And this is probably your last chance. I don’t know how you look, and I also can tell you that while I like cute overweight girls (25-30 BMI) fery few men like obese women.
So if you have to lose weight, do it. I often travel to America and it hurts me that basically 65% of women over 20 are basically completely unmarriageable because of obesity. Don’t really know how british women rank in that category.
If you are truly sincere (and you easily could be a troll)you still have a chance.
A 26 year old touched by your letters. Some of my fellow antifeminists seem quiet hostile to you, but as an antifeminist I despise feminists but love women, loving women is in a man’s nature and it took decades of feminism to destroy that.

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At 1:14 PM, Anonymous said…

I can see how unhappy women become as they age and have no man around, but what about that “string of relationships” with decent guys?

Women cannot complain if they weren’t ready to marry any of the three dozen guys they screwed on their way to age 40.

And realistically:

-men will sleep with you if you have been around, but they really don’t want to marry you if you’ve been physical with lots of other guys.

-you should marry earlier and forget your ideas of independence. A woman who dumps a “great guy” at age 29 because she still feels young is completely stupid.

-Men love women their own age until about age 30, then they want younger women, it is simply nature’s law; we feel this as strongly as you feel a need for a baby after age 35.

-Men and women are different. Men used to give everything to women who were sexually exclusive to them. Marrying young to a virgin girl created a far more powerful intimacy than people experience now. Women don’t need this “specialness”. They freely admit they just need a walking spermbank/wallet when the need arises.

-Women ignore men’s wants and needs for lots of love and sex when we are young, so it is only expected that we would ignore women’s needs for money and babies later on.

The sad part is that it has all fallen apart based on women’s “choices” which have caused a schism between the sexes, destroyed the nuclear family and destabilized society.

You’ve made your choices, we all have to adapt. We’ll meet you for a few beers and then fuck, but then we’re going back home alone to play video games or catch a good movie. Because of your choices and independence, men and women only really have a a little physical pleasure to share, not much more.

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At 3:09 PM, mfsob said…

Poor sue – she’s confusing me with someone who gives a shit!

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At 11:49 PM, Foolish Sue said…

I just want to thank each and every one of you, especially the most angry among you. I guess maybe I’m not as guilt-free as I thought. By this chance encounter you have made me think about my own heart, and it’s not easy. I won’t be back, because I made an arse out of myself at the first, but let me tell you that I think I now understand what a man feels like when he gets kicked in the groin. You will never know how this has impacted my life. I didn’t know men felt such pain. I just didn’t. I’m so,so sorry.

Thank you again, and God bless you all.

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At 11:52 PM, Paul Parmenter said…

Lots of responses here to the pathetic and apparently schizophrenic Sue, but the main point is the anger and alienation that leads young men to kill randomly.

Why is this such a mystery?

Young men have boundless energy, drive and ambition – more than any other group you can name. Sensible societies recognise this and go out of their way to channel that energy into healthy, constructive and positive pursuits that soak up that energy and use it for good – with fantastic results for everyone else in that society. That’s where the leaders, drivers, entrepreneurs, risk-takers, explorers, inventors and heroes of the future come from. Also the great husbands that women want as fathers for their children. Sensible societies also recognise that the only people capable of turning young men from the path of negativity, disillusion and violence, and setting them on the right track, are older men who have gone through the same stages of life and learned from them.

Stupid societies, on the other hand, fail dismally to recognise the value of their young men, and treat them like lepers. They ignore the needs of young men, fail to recognise the potential in them, and leave them without guides or mentors.

Stupid societies then find themselves saddled with the nightmare of those young men struggling to find their way blindly, with large numbers of them turning their huge energies into anger and destruction.

Stupid societies try to separate young men from older males who can teach and guide them. Stupid societies drive men out of teaching posts and fathers out of families.

Stupid societies end up with the young men they deserve. Stupid societies break down and everyone within them suffers as a result of their stupidity.

Care to make a list of the most stupid societies on the planet in 2007? It’s not difficult.

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At 2:18 AM, Anonymous said…

2006 Oscar for Best Actress in a Drama goes to…

Sue,

We’d like to believe you.

We really would.

It’s just that so often we have found women (almost all women) to be complete, pathological liars.

Please forgive us if we take anything you say with a grain of Uranium 238.

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At 2:41 AM, Anonymous said…

I won’t be back

Sue,

Ironically, you have just confirmed you are a feminist.

Feminists are basically cowards. Bullies who use the power of the government, media, and other actors to advance their twisted cause.

When faced with serious debate (here, Forbes, or elsewhere) what do they do? Flee.

Running away is NOT strength of character, by any measure. Especially, when all we are doing is dissecting what you said and holding up a mirror to your behavior. It is more indicative of weakness of character or even an absence of character.

Despair not Saint Susan parading your martyrdom before the world. You have millions of fellow woman as equally hollow and devoid of integrity. You are not alone.

Enjoy the Feminist Dystopia.

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At 4:33 AM, taype said…

“I doubt teenagers even think about the things you mention, and even if they did, why would that drive them to utter self-destruction, especially at such a young age? You’re going way overboard, here.”

I’m 19 years old myself, and yes, I do think about such things mentioned, and rather a lot actually. Unfortunately, this is not exactly a viewpoint that’s conducive to getting pussy, so a lot of guys my age tend to keep their opinions on the matter somewhat concealed, or choose to keep quiet altogether.

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At 6:49 PM, Anonymous said…

I’m not a feminist, and I’m not a coward, either. You want me back so I’m back.

Okay. You tell me what to do. You’re the men. I’m the woman. Tell me. What do I do now? Honestly, spare me the insults I probably richly deserve. I really am in a quandry. My personal life is screwed up. I have a great job and am very self-sufficient, but it means nothing. I don’t have a husband and children and my life is pointless this way. I am at a complete loss. Where do I go and what do I do?

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At 6:50 PM, Sue said…

The previous post was me, Sue. I don’t know if my name showed up or not. I’m sorry, and I’m nost schizo.

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At 8:22 PM, Anonymous said…

Learn how to please a future husband and he will show up.

Learn how to be a good mother and you will have a happy and healthy family.

I’d suggest you talk to women 70 years old or older (who are not bitter spinster arch-feminazis). Their generation knew what worked to attract and keep good men. They would love to help a serious young woman.

Be realistic though. It is 2006, not 1956. You are 29 not 19. You are not as fertile as you were 10 years ago, but you can still have several healthy children and decades to spend happy times with them and a good husband. Make a list of reasonable qualities you are looking for in a man. Give yourself 2007 to find him. Stand out. Don’t be a feminazi pain-in-the-ass (i.e., always starting fights or being combative). Be a rare jewel in the Slut Sea. Think Donna Reed.

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At 1:56 AM, Cornholio Mangus said…

Read the posts again, Sue. Your answer is there, but I might paraphrase it thus:

1: Women created this problem
1a: Women will correct this problem

2: Social activism worked in the past, it will work again.
2a: Get together with like-minded women. Raise Hell. March in the streets. DEMAND change. We have all seen that society will change when women demand it.
2b: It will take time.
2c: It will take effort.
2d: At first, society (many women) will reject you for your stand.

3: Then you will win, and it will be worth it.

You only have one life to live, Sue. Make the most of it. Deeds of renown without peer, and all that.

GET TO WORK!

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At 2:08 AM, julie said…

Sue,

I don’t know if anyone else has answered your last comment but the answer to your question is to LEARN by listening and questioning things.

If you want to find a man in the meantime the best thing to do is:

1. Never show you are better than a man.

Think of it this way. If a man said to you that he was great at absolutely everything including raisng children and housecleaning, cooking, shopping even for himself would you go out with him. No way, for you would be of no value to him. Now think of how you make a man feel. They are no use to you.

Did your mother not teach you this?

You can get your IVF while men can adopt or suragancy (spelt wrong) Why bother anymore, you are both obsolete to each other.

The only man you will get is a man that wants to live off you since you have the career and are self sufficient. There are heaps of these guys waiting out there for you and they will keep you happy with sex. Hey, they will even get you pregnant but if you break up they will sit on benefits so your child really doesn’t have much of a chance.

I don’t mean to be so hard but you are not the only female out there in this predicament and the players are ripping you off.

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At 9:03 AM, MarkyMark said…

Sue,

Assuming you’re genuine; assuming you REALLY, truly want to know what you must do to bring about change in your life; assuming you really, truly want what you say you want; I’ll give you the “Reader’s Digest” condensed version of what might help you.

Before I go on, let me say this: for you, time is RUNNING OUT-end of story. You might only have one or two (if lucky) good shots at finding a good man who’ll have you. To use a baseball analogy, you’re at bat; you have two strikes against you, with two out, and your team is behind a couple of runs. To use a football analogy, you’re down 14 points with two minutes left. Is it possible to overcome those situations? Yes, but (and here’s the key) you must make EVERY REMAINING OPPORTUNITY COUNT. If you fail to do that, you fail to win.

So, if you’re really serious about wanting someone, here’s what might work. Do not worry about finding the right man. Repeat-do NOT worry about finding the right man! Did you read that right? Yes, you most assuredly did!

Rather than worry about finding the right person, work on BECOMING the right person; work on BEING the right woman. IOW, work on those qualities needed to be a good wife & mother.

To come at this from another angle, let me ask you this question: would you (if you were a man) marry you? Knowing yourself as you do, would you marry you? If you have a brother, and he wanted to marry a gal just like you, what would be your reaction, and why? The answers you get from these questions will guide you in the way you should go.

Before you undertake this, let me warn you: the road ahead will be PAINFUL; true introspection always is. When we realize that we’re not ‘all that’, it’s hard. However, once you’ve gone through this process, you’ll feel much better about yourself, because you’ve DONE something worthwhile; you became a better person.

Why is better to worry about being the right person vs. finding the right person? There are many, but the best reason is this: you cannot control when where, how, or even if you’ll meet Mr. Right, but you CAN control who you are, and who you become. You can actively work to improve yourself each day.

I’ve stayed up way too late, so I shall sign off. If I get on here tomorrow, I’ll give you some more pointers on how to achieve your goal. Until then, let me leave you with this: 1) read this article by Vox Day-
2) read his other articles on Male/Female relationships, feminism, etc. While that’s not all-inclusive, it’ll give you PLENTY to start with. I hope this helps you, Sue…

MarkyMark

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At 4:37 PM, Sue said…

Julie, I think you understand me and my feelings. I have always been a high achiever in everything. Good heavens, I suppose it’s no wonder I rarely get asked out on a second date. I suppose I’m scaring the poor guys off. Of course, these days I rarely get asked out on a first date. This is how my mother raised me- to never have to rely on a man for anything.

So, now I sit here alone in my life -really alone- and it’s probably too late for me. I’ve never been a beauty, but I’m in good shape. I know I’m not as pretty as I was ten years ago. What hurts the most, I mean really tears into my soul, is that young men don’t give me that second look anymore and I’m only 29! At this rate, will men even speak to me when I’m 40?

I know my mom wanted the best for me, but why did she take out her anger with my dad through me? She taught me to not trust or need men and here I sit. I DO need men, but they don’t need me. Do you know what’s KILLING me today? It’s New Years, and I don’t have a date. Who would want to go out with me?

Sorry, that’s too much self- pity even for me. I think I’ll go have another cup of tea, and sit with my cat. Oh my. Where have I heard THAT before! God, my life sucks.

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At 4:52 PM, Sue said…

Obviously, I don’t have anything else to do today, so I’ll post some of my feelings. I think so often about my lot in life, and I have to liken it to a lifeboat. It’s like I’m out in the middle of the ocean, and the ship, HMS Feminism, has sunk, and a few lone survivors have taken to the boats, and here I sit, all alone in my little boat. The other boats are lost in their own section of the sea, and here I sit, floating on a lonely green sea, the occasional wave slapping my silly face to remind me I should not have sailed on that ill-fated voyage. It’s the loneliest feeling. I scan the horizon, looking for anyone to rescue me, and no one is there. I keep hoping one of the other life boats will come back so we can just TALK, but they’re lost themselves.
I’d be happy if a shark would stop by and bite my bum just so I could have some company.

The sad part is, I didn’t have to get on the damn ship in the first place.

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At 5:06 PM, Sue said…

That is such a cute name, MarkyMark. Spiting their faces, huh? I think the article was written about ME! Every paragraph was a slap in my face.

You asked me if I would marry me? I’m crying over the answer, but, no, I wouldn’t give myself the time of day. I’ve spent so much time trying to prove something, all I have proven is that no man in his right mind would want me.

I work out at thy gym. Almost every day. Supposed to be a nice place to meet cute guys, right? They rarely talk to me, and I’m in shape, dammit! I’m not classically beautiful, but sheesh, I’m not a dog!

I have never been a skank. Heavenly days, I’d be flattered if any guy even WANTED to go to bed with me. Like that’s going to happen.

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At 7:24 PM, Davout said…

Sue,

I’m going to add my two cents…

Anti-feminism is about men and women being indispensable to each other. Feminism is about both being independent of each other. Proof o this comes through the National Organization of Women which is 40+% lesbian.

Be who you are, not what your mother told you to be.

Your confusion emanates, in part, from your hesitance to jump off the fence onto either side. You can either be a feminist or have a traditional husband, not both.

Ask a trustworthy guy who knows you well personally and who’s not a girlyman how you could improve yourself specifically so that you be worth of the kind of man you want. It is convenient if you ask this of a guy you’re interested in. Women today cannot be passive in date initiation. Thank feminism for that. Equality bites, doesn’t it?

Your working skills can be valuable IF you can tailor them to suit the needs of family life. e.g. budgeting, economics, teaching as in homeschooling etc.

Frankly, if you are as sincere as you appear to be, you are way ahead of other 29 year old single women who may or may not ever have the guts to admit they were wrong.

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At 9:37 PM, Anonymous said…

Susan,

This is how love used to be between a man and a woman:

http://tinyurl.com/y8cjtv

Until the sick and twisted feminists did their work.

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At 11:29 PM, julie said…

Sue,

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. That is not attractive to anyone. And males will only take advantage of that. It is only natural.

Look, it doesn’t really matter how pretty you are for men are not IMO that shallow. It is how you hold yourself and how you present yourself that will sell. Be confident in yourself as you most likely have worked hard for what you have gained. Dress up when you go out but don’t go out with the most expensive jewelry you own as that says alot in itself. Men don’t like dolls either. Be casual.

Your 29 years old. Hey, that is still young. The truth is that women risk their lives when they have babies under 20 and alot of males are not interested in having sex with underage girls either. I am not sure where some of these men are getting their information. I think they should talk to the parents of girls that had babies at 13, 14, 15 and 16.

But anyhow, start losing interest in yourself and start becoming interested in males. Men love to be made a fuss of and if they know you are harmless (you don’t want anything from them) friendships grow. I have a busy life and pressures where a man will be neglected but I still have fun. This is what I do. When I am in need of socializing, I go out to a club while it’s still quiet and shout a round or 2 of drinks to men that look like they work hard. The next thing we are on a fun ride and I get asked out again because I am worth something to them. A female has a special way of being unpredictable and spontaneous. Enjoy that part of yourself. Men that work hard NEED appreciation and they find it enjoyable and are attracted to it. And so are the competitive men for they like to own what is hard to control.

There is a saying that when your not looking, you will find. Forget about your biological clock for you have 10 years to work with. Go and have some fun. Make little goals for yourself. Remember though, if you need to brag or prove yourself, you will be more attractive if you speak of how good you make a cake rather than how high you are up in the corporate world. Your self sufficiency and position in your career will be of second interest to men. Work is something men want to forget about when they clock out.

Markymark is right in saying, don’t look for the perfect man. No-one is perfect. Love isn’t a first impression or a years journey. No, it takes alot of years for love to grow. Look for the qualities you want rather than assets or concentrating on little gestures that annoy you.

Oh boy, some males are going to hate this.

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At 2:05 AM, MarkyMark said…

Sue,

I clicked on EB’s blog again, so I could see your comments; I also had one or two more of my own…

Before I go on, let me say this: when I asked if you would marry you, I didn’t mean that you had to answer me or any other human being, unless you wanted to. It was more for your own introspection, and to share with God. It was at a Christian singles workshop where I first heard that question. In fact, that’s ALL I remember from that workshop! However, for my own personal growth, it was the most important; it was the ‘nugget of gold’ that I needed when I needed it…

Before I continue, let me say these things: 1) you cannot change the past; 2) don’t beat yourself up over mistakes you made; 3) you’re human, and you’re going to make mistakes; 4) that said, do not forget the past, as it can be a good learning tool, i.e. it can teach us what NOT to do; 5) also remember that your mother, mass media, gov’t, and other parties have LIED to you and given you false information.

I remembered another good Vox Day article that’ll help point you down the right track. I copied the link, and I’m pasting it here for you. Go here:
In the article, Vox gives women like you CONCISE advice that’ll give you a fighting chance to find what you want most: a loving husband & family.

Oh, if you get the chance, rent the movie, ‘Rudy’; if you have cable TV, keep an eye out for it, as it is featured every couple of months on one of the cable channels. While it is a sports & feel-good flick, that’s not what I want you to notice when you view it. What I wish to direct your attention to is Rudy’s FOCUS, his determination to play Notre Dame football. While one could argue as to whether this is a meaningful goal, one cannot argue with his focus. If you watch it carefully, you’ll notice that Rudy does what’ll help him reach his goal, while getting rid of EVERYTHING THAT DOES NOT. In this respect, the movie offers some valuable lessons in goal achievement, regardless of what the goal is.

Another thing I’d like to do is encourage you to be positive; be thankful for the things you DO have! You’re of sound mind, so be thankful that you don’t have Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, or some other, horrible mental disease. You have food & shelter; remember that millions in this world do not. I’m a veteran of the US Navy; I’ve traveled to many places in this world, and I’ve SEEN those less fortunate! Remember your blessings always. Finally, you’ve acknowledged that you have a problem, and you’re facing it. They say that knowing you have a problem is half the battle. Not only do you know you have a problem; you’re trying to DO something about it. Would that more women your age wake up. Most of them will eventually wake up, but for them, it’ll be too late. It is not too late for you, Sue, so rejoice in that. Be thankful that you still HAVE some time! Imagine going through this 10 years from now; your opportunities would be gone, and you’d likely spend the rest of your life alone. The point of this long paragraph is to focus on the positives. Your mental outlook will be brighter, and this will help you. Henry Ford had it right: whether you think you can or cannot, you’re right. Having a positive outlook can do wonders for you; never forget that.

If you can mentor women your age & younger, please do so! Let them know that by following Feminazi BS is a surefire way to find unhappiness.

If you know any woman who has a GENUINELY happy relationship with her man (she’ll probably be older, since she will be less contaminated with Feminazi BS), watch & study her. Whatever you do, do NOT emulate the women whose love lives stink! Their love lives are in a shambles for a reason; remember that.

IOW, look for someone who has done what you want do do, and done it well. If you were looking to be rich, you wouldn’t ask one of your colleagues, would you? I hope not. If I were looking to be rich, I’d study someone who’s DONE it better; I’d study someone who’ ACHIEVED wealth, then emulate them, or at least the parts of their lives that would work for me. For you, you’d want to find a woman who’s been HAPPILY MARRIED for at least two decades, if not more. I’m talking about a woman who has GOOD things to say about their husband, who brags on him, etc.

What would a man do for a good woman? What would a man do for someone who loves him? There’s no limit to what he’d do! You’ve heard of the Taj Mahal, haven’t you? It’s one of the wonders of the ancient world. Did you know that the man who built it did so to HONOR HIS WIFE? What did she do to motivate him to build a wonder of the world, hmmm? Find the answer to that question, and you’ll have a great shot at achieving your goal…

Finally, if you hear anyone bashing men, stick up for us; tell them to STOP IT. One, it’ll be a small step to improving things, even if it’s only in your sphere of influence. Two, it’ll help you have a positive outlook towards men & your own situation. Three, perhaps a good man will hear you, and he may decide you’re worth the risk; there’s no guarantee, but if you keep up your old ways, well you know where that’ll end…

Oh, here’s another article you’ll find helpful. It offers a concise, yet measured (i.e. it’s not angry or anything) look into the reasons why many of the men responded angrily to you. Read it, and you’ll gain some understanding about how & why things got so screwed up between men & women…

Sue, I hope that this helps you. I feel badly for you, as your hurt & pain seems to be genuine. Thanks for reminding me that women are human beings, not our enemies. Even though I’m a Christian and am supposed to love my enemies, I was never good at that. To be on the receiving end of hatred & enmity from those who are supposed to be my natural allies (women) makes it extremely difficult. Had I been in a different mood, I might have responded like many of the other guys have. However, I don’t believe in kicking someone when they’re down. Anyway, I hope that this helps you, Sue…

MarkyMark

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At 2:11 AM, MarkyMark said…

Sue,

Here’s yet another Vox Day column, ‘What Men Want‘, that’ll help you. Also, click on the ‘Column Archives’ button, and read EVERYTHING he has to say about male/female relationships, feminism, etc. His sentiments largely echo mine, and those of any good man-the kind of man you want…

MarkyMark

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At 2:57 AM, MarkyMark said…

Sue,

Here’s another article that’ll help you. It was inspired by a 20 year old woman who’d been deceived by feminism, with advice on how to overcome this. Henry also has lots of other good stuff on his site! I have it bookmarked.

I hope that this’ll help you, Sue…

MarkyMark

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At 11:37 AM, Panzer said…

Hey Julie, good call. That post to Sue pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Panzer

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At 10:27 PM, Sue said…

I’m studying what all of you are saying to me. I think I’m starting to piece together what has gone wrong in my life, and while there are lots of external circumstances that have influenced me negatively, I have to take responsibility for my present loneliness. You’ve driven the point home quite succinctly.

Yesterday, I had a couple of girlfriends over for tea and gossip, and as usual, the talk was MEN, and why we weren’t married. I took them to this blog, and showed them my questions and the responses I have so graciously received (rolling eyes), even the nasty one’s. You’d think I stole the Queen’s crown or something. The anti-male tirade that ensued was something I shall never forget. I was berated for coming here, and they pointed out the hostile (but I think well-deserved) angry comments by some of the men to my earliest comment. It is so ingrained for girls these days to find fault with anything a bloke says or does. I guess I was guilty of that myself. It’s easier to blame other people for your problems than to actually get off your arse and make changes.

I’m learning, I’m learning, I’m learning.

But, lest you get your hopes up because I have seen the light, I wouldn’t hold your breath for other women. I feel that the hate and fear of men is so firmly entrenched in my girlfriends that they even turned on me for daring to say that maybe, just maybe, my singleness is the natural outcome of my own selfishness. We got into a very heated debate, and I must admit I said some things that were less than flattering to my friends, especially with regards to their exploits with the wrong gender.

I’m sure they will come here and read what I’m posting, but as Shakespeare said, “To thine own self be true.”

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At 10:38 PM, Sue said…

Oh, MarkyMark! I read a book last year by Mr. Makow about his experiences marrying a girl from The Philippines. It was priceless- and scary! My girlfriends were passing the book around to try and show everyone what happens to men who marry foreign girls. I didn’t know he has written so many articles, but the one you mentioned is soooo right. I will try and read everything written by this fine man!Thanks!

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At 11:37 AM, HAWKEYE said…

juile
some good points there,except the bit about men not liking sex with young girls.cmon
sue
what juile said about working men is correct,they work hard in sometimes very physical jobs and are just tickled pink if a female pays them the respect thet ARE entitled to.
they are worth so much more than those dole bludgers,because its true,unless he is on the dole because if he works the government will take all his money and give it too his ex ,in that case he is doing the right thing.
probablygot a cash scam on he side

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At 9:05 PM, Anonymous said…

Sue: “Oh, MarkyMark! I read a book last year by Mr. Makow about his experiences marrying a girl from The Philippines. It was priceless- and scary! My girlfriends were passing the book around to try and show everyone what happens to men who marry foreign girls. I didn’t know he has written so many articles, but the one you mentioned is soooo right. I will try and read everything written by this fine man!Thanks!”

  1. Any man who gets married these days in a “westernized nation” is insane. Even if a women is “good” at the time of marriage, SHE CAN HAVE A CHANGE OF “FEELINGS” AT ANY TIME – and at that point the man IS screwed. Perhaps the “clock ticking” and the fear of being alone may cause a temporary shift of attitudes but those feelings can change at any time due to menopause, bad boys, predatory female behavior or pretty much anything.
  2. I would never tell a women in a westernized nation how to “sucker” a man into marriage. I’d rather help men out and stand up for men’s rights, marry foreign women, avoid marriage altogether or help them find their own way (MGTOW).
  3. Has it ever occurred to the men here that women will make their way here as it represents one of the last pools of marriageable men (read: suckers) left in the nation! Welcome to the “eternal bachelor” dating site…I’m sure one sucker will bite thier hook sooner or later. I can’t believe men are still falling for the “tears” routine here.
  4. Women created this mess. Men, stop being idiots – chivalry is DEAD. Take care of YOURSELVES and other men. Men suffer 98% of work related deaths, live almost a decade less and are discriminates against at every level of society. Look, Sue is going to have to buy some cats and understand due to feminism she will probably never have a husband.
  5. I can’t believe how weak some men on this site are when a few tears are shed. No one cares if men have their children ripped away from them, if they die as a wage slave or a “spouse” they never see and children they will never know….so why should I care if western women here “cry themselves to sleep” without husband or children? They created the problem and they sure didn’t care during their bad-you loving younger years. Why be a sucker for women in a nation that HATES men?
  6. Men’s options are to: do NOT marry and protect your ASSets offshore while secretly using male birth control, become a PUA, marry a foreign women and at least partially ex-pat, use surrogates and become a single father.
  7. The sh*t is about to hit the fan in terms of debasing fiat currencies, the emergence of China as the new super-power and peak energy/resources. So men really want to be distracted with this when there are MAJOR economic, political and energy (read: war) issues about to explode worldwide?
  8. I think, the Philippines could be a good place to find and marry a nice women. I think any single men that really want a family or children should investigate the Philippines for themselves. Of course western women want to scare men into marrying them but face it – women are being outsourced. Not only are western women competing with Asian and South American women BUT with their largely male and family friendly laws, societies and families.
  9. Anyone have any real life experience with the Philippines or Filipinas or other “foreign women”? Perhaps you can post it here, whether Sues “concerns” are justified or not.

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At 11:35 PM, Anonymous said…

Sue: “Yesterday, I had a couple of girlfriends over for tea and gossip, and as usual, the talk was MEN, and why we weren’t married. I took them to this blog, and showed them my questions and the responses I have so graciously received (rolling eyes), even the nasty one’s. You’d think I stole the Queen’s crown or something. The anti-male tirade that ensued was something I shall never forget. I was berated for coming here, and they pointed out the hostile (but I think well-deserved) angry comments by some of the men to my earliest comment. It is so ingrained for girls these days to find fault with anything a bloke says or does. I guess I was guilty of that myself.”

I would get a chuckle out of *WHY* your friends THINK there is any sane reason for a man to waste their time on them …. much less marry them. They will grow old and have only their cats, their soulless jobs and their miserable childless friends to keep them company. The best they may do is become a single mother of a bastard child supported by the state.

Your friends will slowly find themselves surrounded immigrants – particularly Muslim women – who will have loving husbands and several children. Your friends hearts will tear – EVEN IF THEY SAY NOTHING – as see these immigrant women cuddle and nurse their babies as their loving husbands attentively care for them. If your friends are “white”, in time they will find themselves the childless minority at work and in their neighborhood.

WHAT DO THESE WESTERNIZED WOMEN HAVE TO OFFER MEN that makes them worth the insane risk of marriage?

WHAT DOES THE NATION YOU LIVE IN HAVE TO OFFER MEN, AND TO REWARD THE EFFORTS AND INSANE RISKS OF MARRIAGE, FATHERHOOD and BECOMING A HUSBAND?

WHAT DO THESE WOMEN HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST FOREIGN WOMEN? Face it many foreign women make better wives and mothers than “westernized women”. Many men are opting not to get married, others, are “outsourcing” their women and choosing those which make far better wives with considerably less hassle and risk.

Perhaps if men had iron clad rights which could never be altered and were fair and western women had something positive to offer men would get married. But he*l is likely to freeze over first.

So once again Sue…what do your friends have to offer men, which can even begin to compete against what foreign women have to offer men .. not to mention against the benefits of simple staying single or becoming a independent, single father?

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At 2:04 AM, julie said…

hawkeye,

**except the bit about men not liking sex with young girls.cmon**

Yes, OK, I hear what you are saying. Liking you say. But I used the word interested. There is a slight difference. LOL

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At 9:41 AM, Nilk said…

I’ve not been here for a few days, so catching up and a few thoughts for me to throw into the mix.

Sue, regarding men not asking you out, a lot of men no longer want to ask women out, since they expect to crash and burn.

It’s got nothing to do with how pretty you are, how accomplished, whether you put out, and everything to do with past history.

Sometimes you might have to make the first move.

As was suggested, though, learn to like/love yourself first. If you don’t like yourself, if you are not happy looking in the mirror, then why would anyone else want to be with you?

Harsh, I know, but who we are inside is what shows on the outside.

I’ve got plenty of men friends who have been burnt to the extent of taking themselves out of the meat market, and I don’t blame them.

Speaking as someone who used to call herself a feminist (lucky for me I got over that in my 20s), just be a person, decide what you like in you and what you want.

If you meet someone to spend your life with, it’s a bonus, but you will be a lot happier with yourself, and that is worth the price of admission on its own.

There are a lot of bitter men out there (eg here), and they have good reason to be. At least they are venting here, and it gives us an opportunity to get a better handle on exactly how much work needs to be done.

By women and men.

There are quite a few of us women out there who are antifeminism, but it takes time to find each other and work stuff out together.

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At 8:53 AM, Sue said…

I don’t know if at any point I have ever considered myself a feminist. I guess, like a sheep, I just went along with the flow, and blamed men for everything. It was so much easier when all the women I knew were doing it. Avoiding any personal responsibility for your actions gets to be a habit.

So, here I sit, single. Yes, I realize that it is my fault, and I may very well end up with a flat full of cats. I don’t mind cats so much, but they aren’t nearly as warm as a man. London is a huge city, and very densely populated, but I have never felt so alone in my life. Millions of people, and not one to call my own.

Can I change it? I don’t know. I probably waited too long. I can say that I am now anti-feminist. Is this just typical female mind-changing? Possibly, but I don’t think so. I don’t have anything to gain on this blog. This is like writing in my diary, and having the added bonus of having it talk back to me.

I’m not after a man here, so I’m not likely to go into a chameleon mode to try and fool anyone. I see the wreckage of my personal life, and realize that I have been fooled, and more importantly, that I have been a fool. I will probably now pay the price for my foolishness for the rest of my life.

I don’t intend to spend the rest of my life growing more bitter and angry with men for my loneliness. I did this. I will pay the price.

I was whining the other day about men not asking me out or looking my way. This wasn’t entirely honest. Throughout my early and mid twenties there were a fair number of nice boys who did make overtures, although many were shy as I have always been aggressive in my personal and work life. I rejected them, one and all.

Why?

I don’t know. I haven’t quite analyzed that. Possibly it was for the better, as if one of them had been my brother, I wouldn’t have wanted to see him marry a selfish witch like myself.

Now, don’t try to pity me or tell me I haven’t been that bad. I have. A couple of weeks ago, I was furious at men- all men-the bloody Patriarchy- for being guilty of denying me what I felt I so richly deserved- a family. It wasn’t rational. It wasn’t reasonable. I don’t deserve a family, because I haven’t been worthy. No false humility here, and no plea for sympathy. Just the facts. I just hope some young woman will read my words and learn from my failed life.

I truly believe that the average man here in the U.K. and also in the U.S. is just too good for their women. I would caution men who read my words to not get their hopes up. I don’t see women changing for the better any time soon. Whether by an act of God or pure chance, I have seen the error of my ways, but I don’t see other women changing their thinking. If anything, they are growing more hostile and venomous towards men. More bisexual. More diseased. More wicked.

Do I trust myself right now? No. I look at the other girls I know and I don’t trust them, not even my close friends. I don’t trust women, and I don’t think I even particularly like them. What’s to like?

I once read a book by Laura Schlessinger about “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” which was given to me by a boy at work. I devoured it in a few hours, and it left me further enraged.

“How dare she say such things?!”, I said. But, oh, the book was right on. Dr. Laura talks a lot about how women don’t treat men with respect- or love. True. We don’t. I know quite a number of guys who say they will never get married. They all have so much to offer, but they refuse to marry, and in many cases, even date. They have given up on us women. A couple of them, sweet guys, clearly don’t hate women. They just don’t care. Total apathy. I think this is the future for us. I don’t see men waging a war against women. I think they are just going to quietly walk away, and that will hurt far more. At least if someone is willing to fight or argue, you have a basis for some sort of meeting of the minds. But, I don’t think that’s the case. I think western men will just, en masse, walk away, and never care about us anymore.

I can’t blame them. But it still hurts like bloody hell.

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At 8:37 PM, Panzer said…

Sue,
Let me just say bluntly that it stings like a mother fucker when you pull the googles off of your eyes and see whats really going on in the world. I know, many people hear know. It was all a lie. Hey it looks like you got the right idea, tell, no SHOW girls and young women what their lives can possibly turn out to be. Will you find the right guy, I dont know, but let these future women know that spending their youth with all the wrong guys WILL leave them flat.
Although its quite impossible to follow this through, fuck it here goes: hey you want to go out sometime? There, you just have been asked out, I hope it makes you feel a little better. (Again impossible, due to you in the U.K., Im in the U.S.)

Panzer

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At 11:47 PM, EW said…

As a man just hitting his early 40s, I avoided “westernized marriage” all together. I – a successful Caucasian man – met and married a Filipina women about 13+ years ago. We reside in the Philippines part time and in Canada the remainder of the year. When we goto a mall in Canada or the US, virtually everyone has no smiles. There are very few children and people look lonely and miserable. The social life in Canada/US is as artificial, tasteless and poor in “nutrition” as is the food!

In the Philippines, though a very poor society, *WE* are constantly attending weddings, celebrations, parties and get-together. Next trip for instance, we will attend our annual family get-together. Over 150 family members will attend the celebrations at our ranch. We’ll sing (karaoke), eat, dance and talk the night away. During the introductions, each man as head of the house will proudly introduce his wife and their children over the PA for all in attendance. Quite often, men will jostle in fun over who has the most beautiful wife and the most wonderful children. During my father-in-laws funeral over 1000 people showed up..now that is respect.

The society and the women embrace their men. Children respect their fathers and the elders are greatly appreciated and looked to for advice. Every child takes their education seriously and every parent is proud to show them off! Husbands provide guidance, finances, security, love and discipline in the household. Men can be men there – no fear of being falsely labeled an rapist, molester, child abuser and all the other “labels” men get in the west. Men can also be men in other ways – guns, drinking, hard work and even flirting. Women are proud of their men – jealous yes – but also proud when other women notice them. What women isn’t proud of their man and their children (except in the “west”).

In part women in the west forgot the golden rule, “work to live but dont live to work”. They kill their own children sanitizing the name as “abortion” – what other animal in the world kills it’s own offspring aside from westernized women? They have abandoned their boyfriends, their husbands and the fathers and chased the idol of feminism. Now,they find themselves alone and bitter.

One can be a FEMINIST BY DEFAULT – by not standing up to the sickness in thier younger years.

In contrast my two sisters, both residing in Canada have been divorced twice – despite being lucky enough to have very loyal and loving husbands. Both are now past the age of ever having children; one never did due to an STD she got during her long and wild party years with the bad boys, the other, has one son. Her son, after having his brain wrecked on “Prozac” and having gone through the turmoil of two “fathers” (a real and only father is the BIOLOGICAL father, IMO, as they share DNA) is hanging out with the wrong crowd, very lazy, sloppy and totally uninterested in anything BUT drugs. Both have now put on ALLOT of weight, both are very bitter and are very ugly people inside. Both also have these permanent scowls on their face – it’s hard to describe – but it’s as if they loath men altogether.

My “femi-nazi” sisters even accused me of marrying a beautiful Filipina women for the usually racist reasons. They are “submissive”, “poor women” that I force to “walk around barefooted and pregnant”. I’ve taken advantage of them due to their poverty, lack of education and so on and so forth. Same tired, old and totally ineffective shaming tactics which only causes us men (especially strong men like me) to walk away and BLAZE MY OWN PATH IN LIFE.

For the record my wife (and I) do walk around barefooted at our house in the Philippines. Why not? It’s the tropics and we love the feel of the COLD MARBLE floors beneath our feet! I do like my wife pregnant – why not – we both love children! Besides – in my eyes – she gets more beautiful as the years go by. My love for her grows no matter the gray hairs or the years which pass. She can be submissive – sure – I’m the head of the household after all. But in many matters like the household matters she certainly isn’t. She comes from a well off family, is well educated (a degree in nursing) so I wouldn’t exactly call her poor and uneducated…mind you…we’ve done very well since we met and we even built our own house there – cash – without ever having to borrow money or take out a mortgage. She can retire whenever she likes to focus on family and business…whatever is good for family and makes her happy.

I would give my own life in a second, overcome any hurdle to protect my wife and my family whom I love with all my heart and soul. I’m hard working, successful great in bed and a die-hard romantic. Yet in Canada, all women wanted was sex when I was young (as I had a motorcycle then) and no women wanted to talk of children and families. Additionally, I couldn’t trust a society with a 50+% divorce rate (70% initiated by women) and filled with a pure hatred of men and masculinity. I had no intention of having my family torn apart by feminism, of custody support battles and divorce as is so common in Canada. At least in the Philippines, there is NO legal divorce, families are strong and men are men.

One day I will look back to my life on my death bed. I am proud of my wife whom I love with all my heart, *OUR* family and my accomplishments. I am proud to be a devoted husband, a loving father and most of all for being a MAN. Thank God, I had the courage and fortitude to marry a foreign women and to leave the sick, diseased, man hating “westernized” nation I grew up in.

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At 1:02 AM, Nilk said…

Sue, you’ve had your pity party. Time to get over it now, and pick up the pieces.

By all means grieve for time wasted, then look at it from a different angle. You can see now exactly how our system is designed to undermine families and men in particular. A lot of women can’t.

It’s all about compromise, negotiation, and sacrifice, and while we were all traditionally brought up with the notion that men sacrificed time with their families to ensure a stable roof and food on the table, women sacrificed some freedom for security and the support to build a family and nurture the next generation.

Not quite founding Vogue, but a lot more worthy if you ask me. (And even if you don’t!)

Today and for the last few decades, we’ve been told that we shouldn’t have to “Settle” for second best. Find a man who will give you what you desire, above all else.

Someone who will whisper sweet nothings and take you out for dinner blah, blah.

We forget that sometimes you also need a man who will stand up to you when you are being irrational, someone to tell you to pull your head in. As all good friends do.

Do you want a friend or a doormat?

And welcome to womanhood. It shits all over the sisterhood.

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At 6:09 AM, Anonymous said…

Max – Sydney

“I mean really tears into my soul, is that young men don’t give me that second look anymore and I’m only 29! “

“I work out at thy gym. Almost every day. Supposed to be a nice place to meet cute guys, right?

Sue please dont despair, I hate to see a woman cry I just cant bear it! you are only young, you are under 30 and are sure to have more boyfriends.

“I’m 29 (tick-tick) and it never hit me until recently.”

Here is how it will work out.

After 6-12 weeks of feeling the lonely ache you are currently feeling you will have a change of heart.

One day at the gym you’ll flash a stray smile to James, a guy who isn’t “young and cute” in fact he’s barely passable, but James will ask you out, you’ll know your settling but so what, he was persistant, and you’ve been so lonely lately why not???

Afterall James is rich with a great job, heh! if your going to settle you may as well be comfortable right?

You’ll give James 3 months of brazillians, french and assorted bedroom gymnastics. Afterall you have needs too right?

One day, one of your colleagues will flash her new engagement ring at work.

You’ll go home and wistfully sigh

“I always dreamt i’d be married by 30”

James will dash out and buy you an engagement ring that both empties his savings, maxs out his credit card, and trumps your girlfriends by 1/2 a carat!

Afterall Diamonds are forever right? and James should want you to be happy shouldn’t he?

After 3 more months of scorchin sex you’ll walkdown the isle. The wedding and honey moon will cost 50K… on his credit card… but somehow you just dont feel like sex thinking of all that debt.

James will take that new job in the city.

6 months later you’ll feel angry that you settled and grow to resent him, he just doesn’t make you feel sexy anymore, the bastard.

12 month later Work will become a dreary so you’ll quit and have 2 kids in quick succession, Afterall a family is what you’ve always wanted isn’t it?

Once your eldest is at private pre-school and your youngest child is out of nappies and somewhat self sufficient at age 4 you’ll take up Pilates, yoga, and scrapbooking at the 2k per annumm health spa on high street.

You wont mean to sleep with Pablo the pilates instructor

“somehow one thing lead to another… and it just happened…”

you’ll coo to the girls at the wine bar.

“Pablos just so dangerous… and since James got that vasectomy he just hasn’t been the same has he….”

You’ll all giggle in unison without spilling a drop of champagne

In 6 months you’ll divorce him without batting an eyelid.

“James has just been emotionally neglecting me of late..”

After the property settlement, his parents will never see their grandchildren again, even though they babysat 3 times per week while you went to those Yogalaties and pottery classes.

Unless of course they are rich that is, If it looks like the kids will inherit some cash you’ll maintain a warm relationship with them. When the kids hit 18 and your chances of being the trustee of the inheritance disappears they’ll never here from any of you again.

Your ex-husband will be pushed to the brink of suicide over the loss of his kids, his house and the woman he loved. But luckily for him, you’ll remain good friends, You’ll help him though the loss, you’ll let him see the kids more often and maybe even share a 5 star family holiday abroad or two!*

*as long as the net present value of the discounted cashflows of 18 years of child support exceeds his life insurance and pension entitlement contracts.

However if the life insurance payout is greater then you’ll push him over the edge, but its not your fault, afterall, you cant help it if he kills himself can you? come on darling dont be too hard on yourself.

If he survives the first few years of separation, and after Pablo has left the scene your relationship will suddenly become warm (for the sake of the children of course) for as long as he keeps getting those pay rises paying that child support.

The minute the Bastard ever remarries or gets a girlfriend you’ll seek a court order to increase his child support obligations, if he has another child he’ll never see the other children again.

When the 18 years of child support runs out you’ll be 55 and you’ll be entitled to a generous pension a health care card and a council flat.

So please stop crying and look on the bright side Sue – you only have 2-4 more years of full time work in front of you…

I hope this helps.

Max – Sydney

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At 9:23 AM, Anonymous said…

Well that’s some tear jerker there, Susie.

Are you done feeling sorry for yerself yet?

Toodles,

Antiriad.

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At 3:28 PM, Schpengle Carrot-Tripe said…

well, thats a bit of a bummer there Sue,
but
at the end of the day, even if you have a major episode of spiritual enlightenment, find your inner peace, become one with the great, inner unifying peace within and without, …

you will still be a woman in the uk, with all its pro woman/fuck you men, laws and biasing.

So, apart from your inner turmoil, which is much as has been experienced by men like myself, who were taught to open doors, walk on the roadside of the pavement, protect the woman , etc etc, you have found that, we are treated like crap and that, if anything goes wrong with your fabled new relationship, when the shit hits the fan and something goes to court – and the guy is fucked, there is very little here that most men who write here havent learnt to also come to terms with, again through rough experience.
yours at the hands of societies and the laws indifference to men and their resulting rejection of what you represent to them,
ours at the hands of our societies laws and just how worthless we are shown to be apart from working to death in shit jobs in order to support the society that hates us the women we deal with, financially and emotionally arse fuck us into oblivion.

I wouldnt have thought that ANY woman who is marrying (exclude Sir Paul McCartneys gold digging, whore wife…..and all the others like her,…oh my! what a list!) were anticipating or planning the divorce, whilst still at the altar.
but
it happens to them
and when it does, the bloke is fucked.

So Im not taking the piss, not putting you down, hell I am human and felt like you too, before the whole society thing dawned on me and I realised how I was being treated came about because of the society I lived in, how I was valued, and just what women saw in me, made of me, wanted for themselves, were taught to expect/demand.
…and I then went my own way.

I am not bitter, I am really quite content now, but I do like to have a good flare off on here….its great fun!
especially at the new, younger women (and most are now younger than me 🙂 ) who, idiotically are buying into the feminism crap. its pathetic, I love being single, older and wiser than them.
and now too are you.

so, do all the things the people here advise you to do, there are some really good points and advice here, but the one big downer and major problem for you is that

you live in the uk, where men are spermbanks with wallets. We have learnt and the young ones are learning fast.
we know that and we know what happens to us in this society, so we dont want to give you access to either, it really isnt in our interests, no matter how enlightened you become.
personally, I Couldnt care less what you look like, how rich you are, what you have, but unless you have a shit hot personality, dont make me vomit when your bag falls off, can fit through my front door withought using tyre leavers……
AND PRESENT ME WITH A WATER TIGHT PRE NUPTUAL AGREEMENT, THAT PROTECTS ALL MY ASSETS AND FUTURE FINANCES/INVESTMENTS FROM THE SCURGE OF MY SOCIETIES LAWS ….when something goes wrong and they decide to rape me, then I wouldnt touch you with a 100 foot, rat shit covered barge pole.

See, its nothing personal, well not now that you corrected your original whiney “all men are wankers” kind of post, with some self evident “long dark night of the soul” kind of postings.

so change society!
simple eh?

you women changed it before,
we dont like it
you dont get any
so change it back, and we will try to be nicer to you all than some of our nasty forefathers.
everything is a bit better now, we no longer have black slaves, we no longer run crusades (what was that Mr Bush?>……you wanker!) we dont run genocide in the west…….at the moment, so when are women going to get to grips to the way a lot of them were treated in the past, realise this is now, PEOPLE not just men or women have changed, feminism doesnt work………
and get rid of it, allow society to cut us guys some slack and readdress the laws so that women once more become responsible for their own actions, stop treating thier own bodies like toilets, ie, anyone can use them if they feel like leaving the door open for somoeone (its just FUN after all….no ta!) throwing the babies some of them crave for, down the toilets, with thier tampons, all crushed and folded after a little ^liberated sex^ accident, and just generally become responsible for thier own damned actions.
then.

fuck your gym, fuck your makeup, fuck your money,
then and only then
will you start to become physically attractive to me.
see?
easy aint it?

you got a lot of cat food stored up?

so, reinstate marriage as the commitment to family building that it should be. dont marry for love or money, marry because you are COMMITING TO HAVING AND RAISING CHILDREN TO MATURITY! otherwise just have a relatinship.
STOP abortions, unless proven to be dangerous on health/medical grounds.
its just fucked up to be socially acceptable.
ie, a peadophile bloke will go down for years for shagging a young female, feminists will bay for his blood.
a female will kill a baby that is *inconveniant* to her current, air headed life plan…..feminists will parp the horns of triumph for her liberation from the shackles of bondage that were being forced upo…..what the fuck>?
did I miss something there?

just when did women suddenly turn from the powerful feminists, to the poor little frightened sister in a corner, into the victim, (forget her total lack of personal respnsibility here) into an instigator of, and accomplice in MURDER, then back into an empowered WOMYN , who now probably has issues with men and the BASTARD man who knocked her up>?

jesus, when did we legalise murder>?

so yeah, mini rant there at the end, but its true.

reinstate marriage as a commintment to child rearing. not for the individuals, but for the children.

force both sexes to be responsible for their actions, both prior to and within wedlock.

stop abortion

readress the laws, fareness for both.

…..ummmm did I miss something?
ah yes
burn all radical feminists at the stake
and

fuck your invisible glass ceiling that only woman can see when they look up, LOOK FUCKING DOWN at the glass floor to at all the low paid, crap, hard physical jobs that you dont seem so keen to get into and yet never mention, or the men down there, running your infrastructure, the very back bones of the “oppresive society” you live in.
give them some time, show them some respect….see the look of shock in thier eyes and the hesitancy of the imminant ambush.
yes this is a big issue you have touched on sue

there, thats better!

I hope the straight talking is also of some help, sorry its so late, you sound like you could be ok as a mate, so fuck those bitch mates of yours off, go join a club with some blokes in it or just start a blog, or come here sometimes and start to mix with BLOKES just because, well, we are blokes.
thats it, simple isnt it, mix with us. after years of feminist dislikem just hang out with us and come to realise that we are just people, with willies and a completely different and strikingly similar outlook to yourself. You may then just get to like us for being us, for being blokish, then we will stop being the elusive thing you can get near and you may start to save on cat food.
funny world aint it

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At 3:58 PM, Anonymous said…

If you want to know all about the depths of hatred of women and the pain you’ve caused us, try reading this:

Why hate women

It’s too long to post here.

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At 7:07 PM, Anonymous said…

I don’t want to sound offensive; but I am only 24 and have ruled out any relationships with Western Women. Due to their poor treatment to good hardworking men of America, the bridges have been burned beyond repair. By the time I am 29, I will already be taking myself to foreign countries to meet beautiful women in their prime years. Western Women past their prime (18-24) would never stand a chance to compete with these women.

Here are a couple of phrases I have read.

Women you reject us in your prime, we will reject you during ours.

If the kitten don’t want me, I don’t want the cat.

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At 9:49 PM, Anonymous said…

Sue,

It might help to get out of London. I’m sure the men there have come to view urban and suburban women as souless, evil rattlesnakes. Maybe rural Scotland…?

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At 10:35 PM, Nilk said…

EW Well done on the successful marriage.

As for those who think you wanted a submissive wife? HAHAHAAHAHAH! THey’ve never met any filipinas, have they? They have to be some of the least submissive women on the planet.

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At 1:20 AM, Sue said…

To answer a question:

Yes, I do feel that I’m done feeling sorry for myself. I’m not hurt by anything you blokes say, even if the intention from one or two of you is to cause pain. I think of you as the big brothers I never had. You yell at me and make me think.

I think I now understand where you are all coming from. A couple of weeks ago I didn’t. It was all about me. I have been reading so much these last days. I have read all of the archives of Mr. Duncan’s blog, and have been going to all or most of the other one’s listed. There are so many, and men are so angry. So, terribly angry. I fear this. I fear an angry man. Most women don’t. Yet. But, as a child both loves and fears her father, a woman should both love and fear her husband. There can be no happiness otherwise, don’t you think? I feel the future is bleak for all of us, especially women. I think one day men will rise up and put us down lower than Muslim women. I think it’s going to be just awful.

Can I ask an honest question that possibly some of you haven’t put into words?

Feminism has all but destroyed family life in the U.K. and in the west in general. On this we agree. Can we survive? I mean really survive as a people? What is our future? What is going to happen to us if our family structure isn’t restored? Will we sink into oblivion like Rome and almost all other empires? Are we doomed? Will we ever recover?

That’s technically more than one question, but they are all variations on the same theme?

What’s going to happen to us?

As a woman living alone, I’m scared. This isn’t self-pity, I hope not anyway, but when thoughts of anarchy come to mind, I get terrified. No one will protect me. This isn’t Texas, where I can go into the local store and buy a cannon to carry in my purse. What will happen to all of us? I’ve never fancied being gang-raped or murdered.

Also, Max fro Sydney, I read your words carefully twice. They weren’t lost on me.

Panzer, I’m blowing you a kiss from London. You’re a cool guy.

GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

I DID get asked out today! In no uncertain terms I was told what would be done to me in my bedroom after I was securely tied up!

Hooray!

There is only one itty-bitty problem.

She’s not my type.

I bloody-hell give up. I have my own device, I don’t need it strapped on to another woman.

Sighing VERY loudly………….

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At 1:34 AM, Sue said…

Lately, I have come to realize that not only do I not like most women, I don’t like being a woman. One time, a bloke I knew and disliked said after a heated argument with me, “Thank God I’m not a woman”. Then he just walked away while my mouth hung open.

At the time, it just made me angry, like pretty much anything else a man said or did. But he did put me in my place. How was I supposed to respond?

This isn’t self-pity. Follow me here. At some point, when you blokes get mad enough, you can just say “Screw it!” I’ll go to The Philippines and marry a foreign girl, and you’ll probably live happily ever after.

I can’t do that. Foreign men, aside from some of the African guys who just want ANY girl who’s white, won’t even talk to us, much less marry us. They want nothing to do with us, and I don’t blame them. Even if they did, they would just beat the crap out of us. I know a girl from Liverpool who married a guy from Nigeria. She’s really cute, and he beats the hell out of her all the time. But, she still loves him. Stupid woman.

On top of that, I just started my period, and the cramps are so damned awful.

I love my cat, I love my cat, I love my cat……

Irrational female, as always……Anything that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die can’t be trusted. Am I the only woman who can laugh at that, even during my bloody period??????

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At 1:38 AM, Anonymous said…

I’m not sure about ‘this’ Sue..the conversion is too quick for my liking …and her victim role is distracting our finest on here.
If she is sincere- I say just this..you have one hell of a job ahead to overcome the social bias that frightens men off western womyn!!
I’m still very vulnerable so I post anon.That’s how free society is now.I’m ex RN btw- and served my country well!
PS -I lost 5 kids to divorce (like a plane crash) and never got one Xmas card this year from them..despite 25 years of being a good carer.(see ParentalAlienationSyndrome- it does work rather well) The courts were really a waste of time..I was told to get on with my life- like ‘the rest’ (of men suckers)
So,my added point-
These sites are full of ‘angries’ for good reasons- not the imagined hurts etc. that spawned ‘femdom’ and also the PC acolytes that whimper under skirt hems here in the west!(But hey -the money’s good)
Don’t cry for us Mang(ent)inas….we stand alone..just like Rab C !!!

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At 6:28 PM, Anonymous said…

Someone said this: “Wow, she changed that much in only a couple of days. Just wow…”

I think I FINALLY understand what is going on.

Look at the clues. The small details.

She is still thinking about herself. Not seeing the damage she and others have done and putting herself aside for a moment until it is undone. She speaks in the language of “oh me I’m so alone” bla bla bla. Even if it’s now “I’m so alone and it’s all my fault”, it’s still “I’m so alone”, not “what have I done to hurt you so much to push you away?”.

As antirad said, it’s better to judge such women by their action than their words…

Let’s see her putting her neck on the line for us, fight our battles for us, suffer for us… Let’s see her shovel the gravel for us.

Look at the words she says. Here’s another small detail… she’s basically copied the MRA’s words. SOmeone else said she is “paraphrasing”. That’s exactly what she is doing.

She copies our words, and tries to pretend to be one of us. A “Sheep in wolfs clothing” like another here said.

She is trying to subvert us. She still hasn’t learnt. She is still playing the game of follow the dominant culture.

Previously she followed the feminists because she didn’t care about us and just wanted to do whatever made her seem better than everyone else, out of pure selfish arrogant egotism. A big bloated false ego “yes I’m so talented” sure honey sure you are. Now she wants to follow us because she sees that she’s alone, she’s thinking of us as a “dominant culture”. Once again, she does this out of selfishness. It’s not “I’m listening to you for your sake”, it is “I am listening to you for MY sake”.

She has no morals. No courage. No ability to stand for anything. She is a flip-flop.

Guess what happens when the situation alters in the future so that she thinks she can get away with stealing from you again.

She’ll do just that.

She has not learnt. All she is doing is playing the tired old game of fakery. She’ll back stab you in the future.

I really hate women. They fuck everything up.

I’ve already seen one woman do just that. She went from “listening to MRAs” (and screwing them) because she was alone and wanted to seem nice, to revealing that actually she is a feminazi who hates males, and doing her best to stalk me all over the internet. The nasty bitch is still stalking me now and has now decided that women are discriminated against in the workplace, lol. She still wants men to fix everything for her despite her hating us, despite her act of having previously “listened” to us.

Really evil nasty fucked up piece of work. Better to avoid this type, chaps. She is trying to play us for a fool.

Women are very very very very good at being fake.

Women are experts at it.

Think about it. Women are genetically gifted for manipulation, fakeness, lies.

Just like many of us males here are genetically gifted in other areas. Me, I was pretty good at thinking and science… as a kid I was good with lego and other thinking toys.

Some other guys here are gifted in other ways.

Women are as a whole, genetically “blessed” with the ability to be more fake than we can imagine. Just as a deer is gifted at running, or a bird at flying, so women are born with “lying fake DNA”.

Sadly, this message of mine will only help Sue to become better at faking us. She’ll “learn” from my message, and try to improve her lying skills to cover even these tracks too. So the eternal war of lies continues.

— sexytechmage of freehate.com (yga on niceguy’s)

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At 8:08 PM, Anonymous said…

arthur said

Well, lookie here, a live one!! Before I address this “sue” person, I need to start with some of the guys here. Fellas, is it too much to ask of you to back away from the chivalry table? How many helpings of feminista surprise do you need before you quit with the captain save a ho act? Before the Dr. Phil(lyses) that were giving her dating advice get all indignant I want you to think about something.

If you consider yourself an MRA how is helping this “damsel in distress” going to improve OUR situation? You know, the one that gets us thrown in jail for committing the heinous crime of having a penis? Does the phrase collateral damage mean anything to you? Until “good” (and I use that term very loosely) suffer the ultimate fate of dying alone NOTHING WILL FUCKING CHANGE. What part of this are you guys struggling with? What part of LAWMAKERS DON’T AND WON’T LISTEN TO MEN AND CHANGE THE LAWS DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?

Sue–It appears that you have a metric fuckload of grave to shovel.
A bunch of hairy chested women with a severe case of penis envy started this shit. You and your idiot sisters stood by and did nothing. Now it’s time for you and the other “good” women to convince the rest of the sisterhood that the shit laws that are on the books in the western world need to be repealed. Every last fucking one of them.

Until then, get used to nothing, sport sex, carpet munching, and cats.

Have a horrible day

Arthur

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At 11:56 PM, Sue said…

Arthur, you and the previous woman hater should get a life. Really! Is everything I say somehow evil just because I’m a woman? I already apologized and that’s somehow not good enough for you. I’m sorry you’ve had bad luck with women but it’s not MY fault! Why hate me and judge me because of your own bad decisions? You picked a skank, so all women are skanks in your pea-brain. You seek to force the blame for your own bad taste on me, an innocent woman, who has done NOTHING to you. I want to see things from your side, but how can I when you spew the same hatred that feminists do? What’s the difference, big boy? What makes you so special? It’s wrong for women to hate (true), but somehow it’s okay if a man hates? Isn’t ALL hatred wrong? How can we come together if we don’t stop the hate?

What a jerk!

Get a life, peabrain!!!!

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At 12:00 AM, Sue said…

I might add for the bloke who lost his five kids- Why did you lose them? Do you even bother to try and see them? Do you even bother to pay child support? Oh, no. I can imagine you sit there enjoying your single life while your kids go hungry. I have heard this crap before. Oh, boo-hoo. I’m divorced. Pity me, pity me. Judging by the tone in your comments, I can see why your wife dumped you. You’re not much of a man.

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At 12:04 AM, Sue said…

For Arthur- Carpet munching, you say? I’ve had a few offers from women. You bet. I will give them this- at least they have better manners than a Neandrathal like yourself. Maybe I will have to turn lesbian someday. If I keep encountering jerks like you, I probably will. At least another woman wouldn’t have your ego, and your erectile difficulties, or your hate.

Another jerk. Just when I thought some of the guys here didn’t actually drag their knuckles when walking……

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At 6:28 AM, Mike D said…

Sue, female empowerment does not exist here. You are not a princess. You are not special. And we dont care. Its your life thats going down the shitter and you have yourself and your feminazi friends to thank for it.

You will probably never have children or a loving husband. Your future will dying alone with your cats. Not even your worthless skank friends will be there for you.

I was almost about to possibly consider feeling a little bit sorry for you, but its clear that is exactly what you deserve.

We all reap what we sow. Dont we?

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At 6:37 AM, Anonymous said…

Just to add a breif few observations here:

Sue, my impression would be that you don’t really hate being a woman. You hate what society currently defines a woman as being, or rather, the consequences of adhering to society’s (feminism’s) point of view.

This is exactly why it is important to become involved in changing it. If not for other women, then even just minimally so that you will not have to live as a stereotype that you didn’t sign on for (consciously).

I hear what others are saying about changing yourself. Please realize, however, a lot of men won’t risk sticking their hand in a blender (divorce) even for what appears to be a good woman.

Fighting against the ideology goes a long way to lending credibility to the idea that the man is in fact NOT sticking his hand in a blender.

Think about it for a second. Where I live… 76% divorce rate? 70% female initiated? Would you gamble your house in Vegas on those odds?

Next point. A real relationship is a friendship. A best freindship. There are men that won’t fit that bill. You have to be in a situation where both sides can accept mistakes, accept weaknesses and strengths, and have each others’ backs no matter what even if one of you is screwing up. This goes for both directions. As I said, I admit, a decent number of men won’t fit this bill. I guess what I’m saying is, don’t go for filling a need at any cost. Would you be able to live with the result if you did it that way?

Lastly, I find myself a bit disturbed by about half of Julies’ posts. Perhaps unjustifiably. Perhaps I am too idealistic. Half the time, she seems spot on, but half, it’s more objectification of the opposite gender, the old “here’s what you have to do to ‘get’ them” routine. It’s easy to tell the halves apart from each other. Reverse the genders in the sentences. If reading it with the genders reversed would seem sexist… IMO… it is sexist either way.

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At 9:30 AM, serendipity said…

Sue, pity you, pity you…I can see why men won’t come near you …you’re not much of a woman.

Childish, but there you have it. You don’t get that ‘So there, I told you so’ feeling when the shoe’s on the other foot, now do you dear?

These gentleman have listened patiently to your pity-me act and have tried to help you for, how long now? And as soon as it doesn’t fit your scenario, or everyone doesn’t kiss your bottom immediately because you ‘apologized’ for years of ill-treatment of men, you……..attack their manhood! Brilliant!! Really shows you’re sincere…every women who comes here after you will be viewed with suspicion. Every single one. Thank you dear.

‘Neanthrathal’ *giggle* Yeah, that was really a sock to the old jaw…you really let ’em have it there, grrl. Proved yet again that most modern women cannot refute an argument with logic, but must resort to chracter attacks and slurs on manhood.

Dumbass.

NEXT!!

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At 11:13 AM, scamman said…

Sue, look….you can whine and complain all you want about what you need to do to “land a man” but the problem you are encountering is that men are natural born fighters and strategists. What you are witnessing is men coming together to out think, and out plan their opponents. It is what we excel at. We can take more pain and we can take more unpleasantries in life and keep on going. Women used to understand this and respect and care about us, but they decided that they wanted to fight us instead. So now you are getting a fight. How does it feel, cupcake?

Have fun with your cats while I have fun with a girl that is young and gorgeous and not indoctrinated with the mental disease you were raised with.

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At 4:29 PM, Anonymous said…

Hey cunt, reading is fundamental.
What’s wrong, didn’t get the pity party you were looking for? Too fucking bad. What part of “we are not going to enter into long term relationships with your sorry western asses until the laws are changed” are you struggling with? Sport sex, sure.

This has nothing to do with your personality, or what you might bring to the table.

IT’S THE LAWS SHORTBUS!!!
You and your sisters change them, then we’ll talk.

Arthur

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At 8:13 PM, Sue said…

Oh, bloody marvelous! I get called a “cunt”. Really manly of you. I suppose the ability to insult and degrade a woman is your version of being a man. Fine. I can live with the reality of that, I just won’t sink to your level. I will keep my dignity intact, and let you act like the jerk you are!

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At 8:23 PM, Sue said…

I might add, Mr. Serendipity (such a “manly” name!), if you “men” really wanted to help women, you would be honoring your God-mandated responsibility by getting married and fathering children. Where are the men who are willing to stand up like MEN and take wives? God Almighty, I look around me in London and I swear all I ever see are gay men and metrosexuals. Where are the cowboys? The REAL men? I am so bloody sick of blokes who act like wimps. Men afraid to ask a girl out. Men who won’t take the RESPONSIBILITY to provide for a woman and protect her! My God, what has happened?! Are there NO real men left ANYWHERE!??!??

I don’t mean to be rude, but doesn’t it bother at least SOME of you to lie around doing nothing but playing computer games and masturbating? Don’t any of you actually want a real woman?

Tell me, and I’m not being cruel, but is the problem most of you face simply one of impotence? I mean do you simply lose the ability to have an erection when faced with a woman who actually has strength? Are you afraid of turning limp as a noodle in the presence of a real woman? Is that it?

For some of you, you could just opt for surgical castration. That way, it would official. You could say to a girl, “I’m sorry! I can’t have sex, because I had my testicles removed! Sorry!”

At least that way you wouldn’t have to face the shame of having the equipment, and not having the balls to use it.

God, men disgust me.

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At 11:57 PM, Schpengle Carrot-Tripe said…

HAHAHAhahhahh AHhahah HAHAHHA hahaha hHAhahh hahahahha
oh my!
oh joy!

thank you sue for showing your true colours……….

your really are a cretin.

and , eternally single!

“f you “men” really wanted to help women, you would be honoring your God-mandated responsibility by getting married and fathering children.”

hahahhahahha

“. Where are the men who are willing to stand up like MEN and take wives?”

followed by

“Where are the cowboys? The REAL men? I am so bloody sick of blokes who act like wimps. Men afraid to ask a girl out. Men who won’t take the RESPONSIBILITY to provide for a woman and protect her! My God, what has happened?! Are there NO real men left ANYWHERE!??!??”

then the classic……..
“I don’t mean to be rude, but ”

And the fantstic one liner…
“Don’t any of you actually want a real woman? ”

absouoloutey fucking priceless!!’

oi, you fucking numbskull, irrespective of your sex, you appear to be a thick,emotive, illogical dumb arse who can niether formulate an arguemnet, or indeed if you could ever be helped out there, stick to one!
in short Sue,
you ARE A REAL WOMAN and it is for this reason that you are ALONE.

GET USE TO IT
you idiot, and now you know why we dont want anything to do with you.
but a lot of us arent full of hate, just disgust with with your loathesome self pity, now that you have opened up broadside…….

as for the rest of your usuaal vengeful fembot, noodly, castraty, all men are bastards post.

go fuck yourself one , cos you is a twat baby.

I also notice that my prevuious supportive post to you fell on deaf, premenstrual ears.

u twat.

at least you and now we, know why such a super catch is still single…..

“here kitty kitty kitty…….
*BLAM BLAM BLAM!*……..OOPS.
sorry, thought it was a rodent….
awwwwwwww, pity,
twat!

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At 12:15 AM, Schpengle Carrot-Tripe said…

hey sue
pop over to

Dead Men Dont Rape

a nice, unambigous place for you to formulate your debating skills in a warm supportive environment, before returning here to spout your vitriol.

note, how they post your comments there, but not ours, I should knwo I have posted severeal inquistive, friendly post, but
I however , have a cock
a bit like in society
I am low down worthless scum there unless supporting a sistah, or her free range bastard.

no go whistle dixie elsewhere you harriden.

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At 12:34 AM, Mike D said…

Serendipity is a woman, Sue. She’s married because unlike you, she doesnt make mens penis’ go limp.

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At 12:47 AM, Anonymous said…

I don’t mean to be rude, but doesn’t it bother at least SOME of you to lie around doing nothing but playing computer games and masturbating

Well, I will admit that the computer games do get a tad tiresome.

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At 12:49 AM, serendipity said…

‘I might add, Mr. Serendipity (such a “manly” name!), if you “men” really wanted to help women, you would be honoring your God-mandated responsibility by getting married and fathering children. Where are the men who are willing to stand up like MEN and take wives?’

I’m a woman…a ‘real’ one, not a cardboard whining cutout immitation like you. I am married 26 years and have a 24-year-old son. So you see I have DONE the ‘real thing’ and so I have an actual basis for my opinion of you. I’d shoot my son in the head before I’d let him get involved with an entitlement princess like you. You are a foul-mouthed blot on womanhood. Who would WANT you as a wife???

‘Don’t any of you actually want a real woman? ‘

Yes, and that’s why they run from you, reject you. You have no feminine qualities…you are not kind, empathetic,loving…what man would gladly take to his bed, and make the mother of his children someone who so openly mocks manhood?They see you as a lightweight, that’s why they are toying with you. Respect must be EARNED, it does not come automatically with being born with a vagina.

‘For some of you, you could just opt for surgical castration. ‘

Lovely. Now that should make any man willing to rush into your arms. Well the only good thing about women like you is that they openly display their ugly characters, foul mouths, and misandry, and men are well warned…not unlike colorful poisonous spiders.

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At 3:01 AM, Nilk said…

Sue, speaking as a woman, please get a clue here.

Not everyone who’s been responding to you is a man, and your bleating is becoming tiresome.

Welcome to the world of grownups.

Life is hard, and if you want something worthwhile, you have to work it and work it good.

Because of the damage that feminism has wrought, it’s that much harder for everyone.

I’m a single mother, and I get next to no assistance from her father, but that’s the way it is. I don’t bleat about it, I just get on with the job.

I also know far too many men who’ve been done over by their so-called partners. One, like the anon who lost his 5 kids, came home from a work and found he had no wife, no kids, no house, no car and no bloody dogs.

Another had a wife tell him she was pregnant and by the way it wasn’t his. Oh, and she was leaving him.

Another friend has teenage kids who refuse to talk with him at all, and he never sees them because the ex has turned them against him.

Yes, there are examples from the other side of the fence, but the difference is that the laws in our ‘civilised’ and ‘liberalise’ countries discriminate on the side of the women.

Like the bloke who hasn’t seen his kids for the last two christmases and whose ex cancels his court-ordered visits with them at the last minute.

Take her to court? And what happens then? She gets told she should let him have time with his children. He’s the one who’s paying for private schools, after all.

So she gets told, disregards the order. Again. And then what?

There is a reason for sites like this, Sue, and the reason is that men are justifiably sick of being shat on.

Women are not oppressed, we do not live in a patriarchy.

Women have more opportunity than they have ever had in their lives and what do they do? They sit around whingeing about how lonely they are.

Look in the mirror, realise that before you are a woman, you are a person.

When you accept that that is all you will ever be, then you can start looking at how you want to live your life as a woman and possibly finding a partner.

As it stands, though, you are inconsistent.

That’s understandable, since given your age and the dumbing down of the system and tendency of the feminised beauracracies to wrap youngsters in cottonwool – don’t want them to get hurt feelings – you are probably ill-equipped to deal with the input from here.

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At 4:19 AM, scamman said…

Sue, your tears taste delicious.

You really don’t get it, do you? A relationship is a two way street where two people both offer something of value to the other person. What is considered “value” is what the OTHER person decides is valuable to them!! So, just as you do not get to decide what is valuable to men, I do not get to decide that being broke, living with my parents, looking like a total emaciated nerd, and having bad body odor entitles me to a gorgeous woman! YOU do not get to decide that being a used up old skank with an attitude problem entitles you to prince charming? Capiche?

Sue, I wake up every day, look in the mirror and say “How can I make myself BETTER today?” That is how I start every single day of my life. I decide to eat a piece of fruit and go for a jog instead of eating a bowl of ice cream. I go tanning and lift weights and take supplements. I study hard and honor my words. When I say i will do something for a friend, I do it and stick to it. I take care of my car and polish it and wax it and maintain it so that I am not driving a piece of garbage. I maintain my house and cook for myself. I listen to my family members and console them when they are having a bad day. I don’t bitch endlessly about things that I am not willing to fix. If something happens in my life and I realize that it sucks, I do the hard daily work to change it. I don’t do it for a week, and than decide it is too hard and quit.

Not surprisingly I have had absolutely gorgeous girlfriends who were young and beautiful (are you taking notes, Sue? Did you notice that I don’t give a rat’s ass about their bad attitude or their career?). I have already decided that I do not want children or marriage and I do not hide this fact so naturally these relationships end. I will only marry someone in a foreign country or when the laws are changed here. I made up my mind long ago on this issue. I don’t respond to threats or intimidation from women so they do not even try. Any time a woman has tried to pull that shit, I tell her to piss off and I walk. Period.

Now let’s contrast that with what YOU DO, SUE! You simply want to snap your fingers, whine, bitch and complain and demand that men find you attractive. It doesn’t work that way, moron.

You are simply a lazy slob that doesn’t have the mental fortitude of self discipline to ask yourself the one question that would solve all of this: “What can I change about myself to make myself more attractive to the opposite sex?”

Nope. You instead stamp your feet and make childish demands and ask where all of the good men are….

The good men are all around you, ignoring you, and dating women with qualities that men truly want but you are too stupid to realize matter to them.

You are a truly pathetic.

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At 7:29 AM, Anonymous said…

I’m the guy that posted up before Serendipity. I came back to see if I was posted, and this is what I find? Impotent castrated masturbating video games, eh?

You try to help someone out, and this is what you find out later.

Same as always. You’d think I’d learn.

Now. I’m going to say one last thing, and then I’m going to give up, because I have been through this routine too many times, and I am sick and tired of having my very unfortunate stereotype of modern western women reinforced so effectively. If that’s you, then all I can say is, enjoy being alone. It didn’t sound like you a number of posts up in the thread, but I have been fooled so many times by now that I just can’t trust it.

If someone attacks you ad hominem, you need not respond in kind. In truth, you need not respond at all. That is my advice. It is insulting to your own self, and it gives a horrible impression of you to others. If this was your actual intention, then mission accomplished.

By sticking to actual talking points, and ignoring ad hominem attacks, you give the impression of someone in control of their own emotions and secure in their opinions.

And once again, I’ll say it. It is about trust. Men don’t trust you people (in a generic sense). That is the legacy the feminists have left you. That is what you have to fight against. We don’t trust you, and we won’t trust you without proof. Proof being a sample size of behavior measured in years. Proof being an understanding of how you got screwed by this ideology, backed up by action taken to weaken or destroy this ideology. Or we will assume you are faking it, as I am currently (and I really hope, incorrectly) now assuming.

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At 11:57 AM, serendipity said…

There’s a point in Sue’s post that I’d like to address…hours have gone by and it still bothers me. I didn’t address it in depth earlier…her remark about castration.

As I go about (infrequently albeit) to feminist blogs, or blogs like this one where some woman decides to teach all the men on a board a lesson, I am quite shocked at the number of times it is recommended that men mutilate their bodies. If not castration, then ‘if you don’t want children, why not get a vasectomy?’.

Were anyone to tell women to get their tubes tied, or to get a hysterectomy if they didn’t want kids, think of the hue and cry that would ensue. However, women feel free to tell men to go mutilate themselves. The amount of hate that that indicates is sickening.

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At 1:38 PM, Anonymous said…

I’m the guy who lost 5 kids..
‘P’sue’do..You are wrong in your facile comments-
I will comment that Yes ! -I did pay child support till the youngest was 19- and he’s still at college now.
My ex wanted me back,,,but I refused.It had happened the same years before, but that time I rescued the situation..
Sue ,you are pure vitriol and should not be given any more time on this site IMO.
We already ‘know the problem’-you are a walking advert for the mindset- and I’ve paid with 40 (FORTY) years of my life to know it well.My children have paid emotionally too-and will continue to suffer..none of my sons are ever likely to marry..they probably saw enough!
My feeling is that the damage now done to good men is so severe that the west will never recover..your ‘psuedo suffering ‘is as nothing compared to what may well happen as the soft,feminized and weakened west unravels when times get hard- as they surely will.
The men (many ‘good hearts’on here, too) who understand this will help the innocent-you will not be amongst them !!
I’m not at all sorry …

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At 2:11 PM, Mike D said…

Hey guys maybe she’ll listen this time!

Nah… Time to move on… 😉

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At 3:21 PM, Anonymous said…

Don’t any of you actually want a real woman?

What makes you think you are a real woman? All evidence to-date indicates you are a screeching banshee (like so many modern shrews).

God, men disgust me.

Had problems with your father, eh?

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At 7:15 PM, Sue said…

Some of you seem to think I’m stupid; let me assure you that I’m not. I majored in sociology and women’s studies, and have taken many courses in psychology. I plan on going back and getting a second degre in psychology, and probably will do graduate work as well. Heaven knows, I certainly have the time.

Some of you claim to be women. I believe it. Typical stupid hetero women brow-beaten by the Patriarchy. You don’t have the sense to realize what has happened to you, so you meekly submit.

Piss on the bloody lot of you.

When I think of the damage wreacked on society throughout the world by MEN, I have to cringe. How many wars have been fought so men can prove their bloody manhood? How many women and children have been sacrificed by MEN?

Damn the bloody lot of you.

My personal life has been made miserable by MEN, and the lives of ALL women are being ruined the same way. Damn all of you.

I am not a lazy slob! I work sixty plus hours a week, and I will be going back to school later this year. Tell me, smart ass, how does that make me lazy? I support myself completely, and it looks like I’ll be doing it until I drop. How is that lazy? Tell me? How am I lazy? Of all the stupid insults I have received while here, that has to be the worst. I took care of a sick grandmother by MYSELF until she died last year, all the while working long hours. I had to pay someone to come in and help while I was working. No one helped. I’m still in debt from that. Not one damned male relative lifted a finger to help, even when I pleaded on behalf of my grandmother. NOT ONE!

I’m lazy? To hell with you. Really, to hell with you. You haven’t walked in my shoes, yet you rip into me and make insane assumptions about my being lazy. Lazy, for God’s sake. That’s a bloody rich one.

Screw you, mate.

I have never felt such rage and hate for men as I feel sitting here right now. I have never been completely settled on the abortion issue, but it has one distinct advantage. At least millions of MEN have been offed before they had a chance to ruin innocent women. Now, if we could just persuade women to only abort male fetuses, what a happy world it would be!

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At 9:38 PM, Anonymous said…

lol

Right, there is no way in hell that this “Sue” is serious.

*Majored in Women’s Studies*
*Male-only abortion*

This has got to be a wind up, surely lol. I expect the girl who’s writing this is at her computer pissing herself right now.

But Sue, if you are who you say you are, please answer me this. Where did you go to college/uni?

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At 11:55 PM, serendipity said…

Yes, it has to be…

no one could be that stupid….

could they?

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At 12:14 AM, Nilk said…

Some of you claim to be women. I believe it. Typical stupid hetero women brow-beaten by the Patriarchy. You don’t have the sense to realize what has happened to you, so you meekly submit.

HAHAHAAHHAHA!

While I’m new to commenting on this blog, nobody who has ever met me has called me meek, nor seen me submit.

As for the assertion that some of us “claim” to be women, well, baby, 22 hours and an emergency caesar are pretty good indicators if you ask me.

And as for being a stupid hetero? Girlfriend, you want to take up lipstick lesbianism because you can’t get a man? Be my guest.

SUre, some men are absolute mongrels. I lived with one who used to smack me around (and a whole lot worse). I got away from that years ago and never looked back.

And you know what? I have had so many women friends exclaim about how amazed they are about how together I am. After all, I was a ‘victim’ of dv.

No, I wasn’t. I was a co-enabler and I didn’t leave the situation when I should have. Like straight away.

I learnt my lessons well then moved on.

I’ve read Faludi, and Wolf, and Steinem, and Freidan and Dworkin. I’ve even got some on my shelf. I’ve also got Patricia Pearson and her work on female violence. Maybe you should track that down.

I also wouldn’t talk too loudly about studying psychology if I were you. My experience tells me that women who study it are doing it to help themselves rather than other people.

You had a remarkably good run from some of the blokes here, a lot better than I’ve seen some women receive, and still you bleat.

Wtih respect to the death of your grandmother, you won’t accept this, but I’ll offer my condolences.

As for male relatives not assisting? What about your female relatives? What did they do to help?

That shit doesn’t wash. My brother didn’t visit my mum in hospital when she was dying for months until her last couple of days, but he was living over 1000 ks away.

My sister didn’t get to spend much time with her, either, since she was a couple of hours away with a 10yo a new baby and a husband and job.

So I got the job and I did it gladly.

Did you ask your male relatives for assistance? Or did you see that as demeaning yourself?

I don’t expect any answers, but at least consider the question.

And consider this statement: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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At 12:56 AM, Anonymous said…

To coin a phrase from Saturday Night Live in the 70s…. “Sue, you stupid cunt.”

Men don’t give a shit about how much money you have, because we have our own. We don’t give a shit about how much you work, because we work just as hard.

I suggest you go to this website for further clarifications on what men want: http://www.bitchmakemeasandwich.com

I hope you enjoy sucking Muslim cock, because the men in your society have learned that you are not worth protecting. If it wasn’t for these “men” that you think “start all wars” then RIGHT NOW, you’d be sucking either 1) German Cock, 2) Muslim cock, 3) Roman Cock, Mongolian cock, 4) Or, possibly Ottoman cock. You’d be a literal cock sucker instead of just a figurative cocksucker.

Does the loneliness creep up on you,
in the still quiet of the night?
Is the stinging pain of being alone, salved by your readings of Dowd, Steinem, and Dwarkin?
Do the cats help warm your bed,
during the long, cold, winter?
How much do you cry when you realize that there will not be a warm, caring, loving, living man between your legs?

Your tears are as the choicest wine to me!

You cannot have a “real man”, because you do not deserve one; furthermore, you wouldn’t even recognize one if he spanked your spoiled ass.

You are a washed up skank. Your looks have already failed you. Notice that your breasts aren’t pert anymore, but sagging? Notice the same for your ass? How about the crow’s feet in the eys?
Men your age bypass you for the 23 and 24 year olds. Rightfully so.

How’s it feel Sue? How’s it feel to see real men choose their computer games, beer, dogs, hobbies, and friends over what you thought was your golden pussy? How’s it feel to be nothing but a cum-dumpster? How’s it feel to be worth nothing except to be bent over the back of a couch, knowing the guy would have chosen a younger, prettier woman if one had been available? How’s it feel to know that you are only marginally better than a guy’s hand?

Rage! Rage against the “injustice” of smart, successful men not desiring your used-up, worthless self.

Does it bother you that you will never feel the embrace of your loving child? Does it bother you that no man views you as even semi-worthy of their time? Of course not! You have “Grrl Power!”.

Enjoy your cats and vibrators, and to quote Eli: “Suck it up, Bitch!”

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At 7:05 AM, Sue said…

I’ve spent some time at Middlesex University, and done most of my studying at London Metropolitan University. Does that meet with your approval? Do you want me to give you my instructors names? Do you want a copy of my grades? Possibly a record of my test scores to see if you agree with the outcome? Would you like the names of fellow students that I knew to verify my attendance? Would you like to contact the admissions office to verify that I exist? How about to see if I attended all of my classes? Possibly you’d like my name and address and a photo so you can post it all over the internet? Really, what the hell do you want from me?

Is it my major that offends you? I know, I know. My area of study is akin to under-water basket weaving. I’m sorry I’m not bright enough to major in computer science. Or math. Or engineering. Or anything else you would hold in high esteem. I wanted to go to college and make something of myself, and majored in the areas where I didn’t think I would fail miserably. I’m sorry if that doesn’t meet with your approval, but I’ve done the best I can with what I have to work with.

You guys are just bloody marvelous for someon’s self-confidence. I may be a tempermental bitch, but you don’t have to strip away what little I have going for me.

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At 7:34 AM, Anonymous said…

Modified quote:

I have never felt such rage and hate for Jews as I feel sitting here right now. I have never been completely settled on the Final Solution, but it has one distinct advantage. At least millions of Jews have been offed before they had a chance to ruin innocent Germans.

I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for this whole society. We have been put at each others’ throats. We have been carved up like a roast. It need never have been this way.

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At 8:33 AM, Anonymous said…

Sue,

I majored in Psychology and I am a man, so you aren’t going to get any grief from me on that front. There are valuable researchers in Psychology and there are people that do the ugly dirty work of counseling and a lot of them are women and I respect them for it. Seriously, I do. Some of them work their ass off to help people not kill themselves and that is very noble work.

You seek to fight with men instead of being a partner and offering something of value. You basically have the business sense that most women have, which is basically complete shit. Like women who run businesses, they believe that the customer should want what the women WANT them to want. That is why there are so many women in marketing and advertising. It is a way to manipulate people into buying the crap that the woman wants to sell. Along with Human Resources, it is the branch of Business School that women do well at.

Men however, ask themselves a fundamental question “What does the customer want?” just as they ask themselves “What does a woman want?” Now, you can fault certain guys for asking that question too much, but at least they try. They do the hard work of designing a product that works well, or of creating something that the customer demands. They have the ability to put their ego aside and let go of their petty biases and just give the damn customer what they WANT.

Women have an almost COMPLETE inability to do this simple task. Instead of simply opening the door, they scream at the door and demand that it open itself. I can’t even count the times I have watched women do this, only to have some guy rescue them from themselves.

And as for men fighting all of the wars and starting all of the wars, you demean the men that fought and died for you so that you wouldn’t be speaking German right now, you ungrateful little cunt. If it wasn’t for those brave men (like my grandfather) that fought in shitty, sweaty, miserable conditions, while their wives were at home out of harm’s way, than you wouldn’t even be able to have the LUXURY of wasting your fucking time on something as pathetic and childish as Women’s Studies. You would be getting fucked in your old ass by a German and passed around like a fucking ragdoll while learning some Nazi manners.

Your ego is going to destroy you. It sounds like it pretty much already has.

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At 10:52 AM, serendipity said…

“Typical stupid hetero women brow-beaten by the Patriarchy. “

Ya,ya, typical….we’re browbeaten, and you’re making fearless brave choices every day…

Don’t knock it sweetheart, it seems that our way is working. How’s your quality of life lately?

We’re getting our legs pulled here, we must be…someone calling us ‘stupid hetero’ women after she comes on here bemoaning lack of dates and sex. Eh?

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At 11:03 AM, CLovIS said…

I wrote that anon post @ 9:38 PM

Sue calm down. You don’t have to justify your choices of academic study to anyone.

However, this is what made me suspicious:

You say you live in London. Fair enough.
You say you did your studying at Middlesex University and London Metropolitan University. Fair enough

However, this is what I don’t get. I’m currently at university in the UK, as are most of my friends. Now, I’ve never, ever heard anyone from the UK use the term “majored in…..” or say that they are “majoring in….” , the terminology generally used is either “Im doing..”, “Im studying….” or “I’m reading….”. In fact, the only time I hear anyone speaking of “majoring”, is when I’m talking to American exchange students, after all that’s how their education system works. So, it got me a bit suspicious you see, because, since I’ve never heard anybody from the UK use that expression, it appeared to me that you may actually be writing from the US, or, that your posts my infact be the work of several people, some of whom may be living across the Atlantic. To be honest, it would not take that long to do a quick Google search of “Universities in the United Kingdom” and put a couple up here now would it?

I’ve spent some time at Middlesex University, and done most of my studying at London Metropolitan University. Does that meet with your approval? Do you want me to give you my instructors names? Do you want a copy of my grades? Possibly a record of my test scores to see if you agree with the outcome? Would you like the names of fellow students that I knew to verify my attendance? Would you like to contact the admissions office to verify that I exist? How about to see if I attended all of my classes? Possibly you’d like my name and address and a photo so you can post it all over the internet? Really, what the hell do you want from me?

If you are who you say you are then stop the bullshit above. No one in their right mind expects anyone on the internet to post such personal information, so don’t try and make it look like I or anyone else is demanding it from you. You and I both know that you aren’t going to put that information up here (and rightly so), so please don’t’ post a block of rhetorical questions hoping it’ll prevent us from questioning you.

If I am wrong about the Uni situation then please forgive me.

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At 1:07 AM, Mike D said…

“You guys are just bloody marvelous for someon’s self-confidence. I may be a tempermental bitch, but you don’t have to strip away what little I have going for me.”

This is pathetic. After she just shat all over everyone here and said all male children should be aborted, shes giving us the pouty face routine because she doesnt like the results of her own actions.

Welcome to REALITY bitch. Dont dish it out if you cant take it. Suck it up bitch.

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At 6:00 AM, man0war said…

From reading her posts, I think that ‘Sue’ either (1) suffers from multiple personality disorder (MPD) or (2) ‘she’ is actually several people.
Applying Occam’s Razor (the philosophy that the simplest and most logical explanation is the correct one), I strongly suspect the latter to be the case; and furthermore, that these people are feminist activists attempting to bait the men here to ‘divide and conquer’,
a battle tactic that would be well within feminist purview and makes logical sense.
What gave them away? In part, the contradictory slip-up (oops!) of the ‘stupid hetero woman’ comment, coming from ‘someone’ who purports to be pining for male companionship, combined with the sudden change of ‘her’ later posts to a man-hating tone.
C’mon, ‘ladies’ (and I use that term loosely), you need to learn to compare notes and stick to a consistent plan when strategizing!
But as women are inconsistent by nature, it follows that you would screw up sooner or later.
I suggest that we pay ‘Sue’ (or her various permutations) no further mind. Don’t give the feminista guerrillas what they want.
You femmies may fool some of the men some of the time, but ultimately, we will prove too clever for you!

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At 3:20 AM, julie said…

serendipity,

You wrote:

**Were anyone to tell women to get their tubes tied, or to get a hysterectomy if they didn’t want kids, think of the hue and cry that would ensue.**

I have to say that I disagree with this. Many women do talk this way to each other. How many of us want a baby when our kids are in their late teens and early 20’s.

The problem is that there is a 3 year waiting list and many (medical pros) won’t give it to us under 40. They seem to think it is the norm. I can see why now for many women aren’t having children till 30+ while some of my friends are grandparents in their mid-late 30’s and early 40’s.

However, some midwives and doctors do advice expecting mothers to get their tubes tied at the same time of delivery if they don’t want amymore children.

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At 5:50 AM, Anonymous said…

Psychology is an excellent major. No worries there.

So, is it that you are looking to partner up with a man, or is it that you hate men? This is in the general sense. Hating any one individual… sure, fine, whatever. No problem with that.

If it is the first, many will be willing to give advice.

If it is the second, we are all sick of hearing it. We’ve been hearing it for years. It all sounds the same to us now.

We are so sick of hearing it that we get pissed off. We are also so conditioned to believe that we will hear it sooner or later, that advice is about all we’ll give. Why are we conditioned to believe it? It is just so fashionable these days.

You are technically correct. In a perfect world, respect should go both ways. But we just don’t believe it really will. We’ve been around it so much, we believe the women are lying.

Well, what do you expect when we are proven right ten times out of ten?

Go ahead, commence the name calling. No wait, I can do it for you. Take your pick: spineless, pathetic, dickless, not a real man… I could go on.

Pick your favorite five and use them in a sentence. Six gets extra credit. Having done that, is it in any way useful to you?

Ad hominem attacks are designed to bait you. Specifically to see how you would respond. It was used as a time saving tactic to see where your ideology really stood.

Obviously.

Do I agree with it? Usually I’d say no, but it seems to have proven rather effective, so I may need to re-asses my usual distaste for it.

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At 12:44 PM, Anonymous said…

It’s been said by ‘Sue’ elsewhere that she is suffering a mental illness and not been medicating for it properly of late.
I too have suggested ignoring her input- but now it goes without saying that compassion from all us justifiably angry guys is needed in handling this unhappy womans’input.
5kids

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At 6:14 PM, Anonymous said…

Hi Sue,

1) You are stupid. Yes you are stupid and you hjave an over bloated ego. If you were a decent human being you’d admit your limitations instead of pretending to be more than you are. Being a hot air balloon seems to be all feminism is about really.

2) You are an evil fucked up fake feminazi. You are incapapble of blaming yourself despite that you are the one at fault.

3) You have compassion, understanding, or empathy for males. The idea of caring for us or understanding us, is to you, an abberation of nature. All you have is pure evil, and selfishness. There is not a shred of goodness within you. Not even enough to be ashamed for what you are. All you deserve is painful death, and to shut the fuck up.

4) We don’t hate women. Just evil women. Which is you, and most of the women on this planet at this moment in time. It’s not our fault you are all evil is it? On other planets, women are nice and lovable, I am sure of this. But on those planets they don’t hate us males, they don’t think we must protect and provide for them or take emotional abuse for their sadistic pleasure. Over there, the women see men as just part of a team, where each team mates look after each other.

Such planets are far away from Earth. On Earth we only have evil selfish women who need to be destroyed.

And a few good ones who hate the most of females on Earth.

–yga

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At 10:01 AM, serendipity said…

Julie, I was in part responding to this–

“For some of you, you could just opt for surgical castration. That way, it would official. You could say to a girl, “I’m sorry! I can’t have sex, because I had my testicles removed! Sorry!”

At least that way you wouldn’t have to face the shame of having the equipment, and not having the balls to use it.”

and all the other instances where I see young women recommending that young men get castrated or get a vasectomy as soon as they say they are not interested in marriage. No one recommends that a woman who does not want to marry , surgically alter herself so she cannot have children.

Why, the number of single 40-somethings having children on their own with IVF is increasing yearly. Why not tell them to just go and have surgery to be sterilized, instead of the government funding programs to help them have babies? Tit for tat and all that….no one would dare…

This entirely different attitude towards male and female sexuality is striking.

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At 4:34 PM, Anonymous said…

ref IVF ‘rights’
I don’t like being a cynic but the falling indigenous birthrate being well below replacement level (we know why) means our lords and masters(sorry- public servants) need to move on a bit for the solution.
Men are redundant..there’s enough ‘super-sperm’ in store to last…ahem…for ever.
Quality of life kids? ..don’t wait !
ID Cards…anyone ??

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At 6:58 AM, julie said…

serendipity,

sorry about that. You are definately right in what you are saying.

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At 11:45 PM, serendipity said…

No problem, Julie, I should have perhaps written that earlier post in a clearer fashion.

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At 3:28 PM, Masculist Man said…

  1. Any man who gets married these days in a “westernized nation” is insane. Even if a women is “good” at the time of marriage, SHE CAN HAVE A CHANGE OF “FEELINGS” AT ANY TIME – and at that point the man IS screwed. Perhaps the “clock ticking” and the fear of being alone may cause a temporary shift of attitudes but those feelings can change at any time due to menopause, bad boys, predatory female behavior or pretty much anything.
  2. I would never tell a women in a westernized nation how to “sucker” a man into marriage. I’d rather help men out and stand up for men’s rights, marry foreign women, avoid marriage altogether or help them find their own way (MGTOW).
  3. Has it ever occurred to the men here that women will make their way here as it represents one of the last pools of marriageable men (read: suckers) left in the nation! Welcome to the “eternal bachelor” dating site…I’m sure one sucker will bite thier hook sooner or later. I can’t believe men are still falling for the “tears” routine here.
  4. Women created this mess. Men, stop being idiots – chivalry is DEAD. Take care of YOURSELVES and other men. Men suffer 98% of work related deaths, live almost a decade less and are discriminates against at every level of society. Look, Sue is going to have to buy some cats and understand due to feminism she will probably never have a husband.
  5. I can’t believe how weak some men on this site are when a few tears are shed. No one cares if men have their children ripped away from them, if they die as a wage slave or a “spouse” they never see and children they will never know….so why should I care if western women here “cry themselves to sleep” without husband or children? They created the problem and they sure didn’t care during their bad-you loving younger years. Why be a sucker for women in a nation that HATES men?
  6. Men’s options are to: do NOT marry and protect your ASSets offshore while secretly using male birth control, become a PUA, marry a foreign women and at least partially ex-pat, use surrogates and become a single father.
  7. The sh*t is about to hit the fan in terms of debasing fiat currencies, the emergence of China as the new super-power and peak energy/resources. So men really want to be distracted with this when there are MAJOR economic, political and energy (read: war) issues about to explode worldwide?
  8. I think, the Philippines could be a good place to find and marry a nice women. I think any single men that really want a family or children should investigate the Philippines for themselves. Of course western women want to scare men into marrying them but face it – women are being outsourced. Not only are western women competing with Asian and South American women BUT with their largely male and family friendly laws, societies and families.
  9. Anyone have any real life experience with the Philippines or Filipinas or other “foreign women”? Perhaps you can post it here, whether Sues “concerns” are justified or not.

9:05 PM

Thank you,thank you for trying to wake everybody up. Sue has hijacked this thread with her crocidle tears and gotten these so-called “MRA’s” to feel sorry for her and give her advice on how to SCREW over a man and she and her feminist friends can have a good laugh at who gave her the advice to screw over men effectively. Oh and your hoping Sue is truthful and not fucking you over. Well,back the fuck up and look at this bitch’s track record.

Sue is a feminist and the enemy and I for one will not rest until she is driven back to hell where she belongs.

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At 10:17 PM, Anonymous said…

Hey Masc…Sue …she’s ILL man…but so are a lot of kids fed such shit over many years. I have to say -why did men let it happen ???
I suggest we men are victims of misplaced ‘mother worship’ letting women ‘have their heads’-now translated into ‘fear’ by children of “what the f*cks going on here??”
Ever hear of ‘black objecting’ where the innocent are attached to the ‘carer’ due to fear of worse, now Dad’s out of it? Well feminism has made children out of the mothers.. and it’s recycling in a loop !! Easy…
5 kids

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At 12:23 AM, Masculist Man said…

I think Sue is as crazy as fox considering she is trying to divide everyone here. In another post she claims to hate men but here she doesn’t,there’s the contradiction and the contradictions don’t seem to phase women in the slightest,but they do send a red flag up with me and that is why I think she is less than sincere. I believe someone else pointed out “Sue” may be more than one person and that could very well be the case.

On the other hand if she is mad as a hatter then it is not our problem.

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At 11:51 AM, Anonymous said…

Masc buddy..Bipolar/Schizoid=
Hi-Lo/Dual personality.QED
What passes for feminist ‘thought’ can hardly be recognized as any different.
Problem is..the inmates HAVE taken over the proverbial establishment !!
5K

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At 6:43 AM, Anonymous said…

Sue’s comments about Nigerian guys are just offensive. Most non-white guys won’t bother with slags. She flatters herself to think that there are many guys like the one she described, and shows her own racism.

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