Michael Jordan could lose up to 90% of wealth in divorce


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08 January 2007

Jordan vs. Jordan: In Defense of Michael Jordan

After 12 years of marriage, [Michael] Jordan’s wife Juanita filed for divorce earlier this month and is seeking permanent custody of the couple’s three children, their 25,000-square-foot home, and her share of the couple’s property. Under Illinois law she may be awarded up to 90% of their assets.

Marriage: Just Say No. Multi-millionaire basketball player or humble office worker, just avoid it brothers.

90%…holy shit.

According to Forbes a few years ago, Jordan’s net worth was $398,000,000. You don’t even need to work out 90% of that to realise that this bitch is going to be sorted for life on the hard-work of a man. Okay, it may only be “up to 90%” but it’ll surely be at least 50%. In fact, even if she only got a mere teeny tiny little 0.9% of his assets she’ll still be far wealthier than she would have been had she not married him.

Michael Jordan and Paul McCartney going though divorces and losing so much of their assets at the same time on opposite sides of the Atlantic this year will, hopefully, wake up more men to the total bum-raping in the family courts men get during divorces, whereby a woman can file for divorce and plunder a husband for money he earned.

posted by Duncan Idaho @ 9:37 PM

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At 10:08 PM, Anonymous said…

It’s not going to wake any men up.

I’ve been reading these kinds of stories going back to the 1980s.

A relative of mine patiently explained to me several years ago that his marriage was “different” – his wife was his best friend, blah blah – and you have to find the right woman. I was just immature not to get married.

Yeah, you can guess the “rest of the story” now that I heard while I was home at Christmas.

Second point: Why on earth do some men seem thrilled to work their ass off for a woman, who sits at home doing no work, just nagging him? I’ll never understand that.

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At 10:26 PM, Difster said…

I’m not totally against the idea of getting married again but if I do, I’m going to make sure I protect my assets for the sake of my daughter.

Some people say that a pre-nup is just assuring yourself of a divorce. I don’t believe that anymore. The divorce laws in this country certainly favor the woman. I just don’t get it.

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At 10:38 PM, Anonymous said…

I agree with anon@10:08. I just think men are completely retarded. If you bring up any of the facts posted on MRA blogs such as this one, most MEN will immediately decry you as a misogynist or employ shaming language, heck, I think they are a lot worse than women are. At least you can avoid women or ignore them, since almost everything they say is so stupid, but when men start saying the same things it’s not as easy to ignore them. I am absolutely not interested in “saving” men that get hosed in divorce court. If you’ve gotten married in the past 10-20 years, you freaking deserve it, and you’re what created the mess we are in. If you asshats had taken a stand back then, feminism wouldn’t have gotten to where it is. Sure it’s fun to blame politicians and lawyers, but without stupid men these people wouldn’t be able to do anything. Despite what Duncan and others say, the general public still has power over politicians, it’s just the general public agrees with feminism.

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At 10:40 PM, Anonymous said…

Men aren’t stupid, they just fall in love. The sex and the fun times together are very powerful and override the guy’s common sense.

I love to date and get to the happy boyfriend/girlfriend stage, then I skillfully break things off – even saying I have a terminal illness. I do what I have to do to get the sex and fun times, and then do what I have to do to break it off quickly.

Millions of men are doing what I do. There is no other way; unless you want to spend the rest of your life slaving away for a woman you maybe spent five years with.

Never marry, never.

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At 11:30 PM, HAWKEYE said…

one thing i will credit to females ,they are smarter when it comes to protecting there assets.
for example when a female with her own wealth gets married she will be sure to have a pre nup,they understand the wicked plans and traps that females set for men and are carefull to avoid them.
men dont do this they think that his little angle could never do that to him or it wont happen to us.
BULLSHIT!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!,

the truth is this has been her plan since the relationship began,watching and waiting like a snake in the grass ,waiting for the bonds to mature waiting for the right amount of kids to be born or in my case waiting until we moved close to her parents.
ar yes brothers they know the game of lies and deceit very well.
be on guard or pay the price

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At 11:43 PM, Anonymous said…

Here’s my prediction of what she’ll get:
The most expensive house and car(s) All furnishings. All of “her” luxury possessions, she’ll keep and won’t get counted. Jewelry is usually the big one here. Furs also.
Incredible alimony (250,000/yr)
Incredible child support (.5 mil/yr/child)
50% of the liquid assets.

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At 11:46 PM, madmat said…

In reply to Anonymous:

“Why on earth do some men seem thrilled to work their ass off for a woman, who sits at home doing no work, just nagging him? I’ll never understand that.”

It’s because we have been lead, from being young boys, to believe that females are the gentler sex and that they need care and protection.

Combine this with our basic instinct to reproduce, support and protect our families even if it means laying down our lives for them, and hay presto you have a walking/talking life support system. Women are happy ,the government is happy and businesses are happy.

We need to un-learn what evolution has burned into our thick skulls over generations and see what’s really going on.

So men… please… Before you get down on one knee and hand over that expensive ring, stop for a moment, and think:

What’s in it for me?

I think you may be surprised by the answer.

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At 12:39 AM, Anonymous said…

Like I said before:

Men associate love with sex and women associate sex with “Just Sex”.

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At 1:58 AM, Anonymous said…

“even saying I have a terminal illness”

You dont even have to do that – just carry around a photo of your Brothers young kids (or any young kids for that matter)

At the 3 mth mark, tell her you have kids and thanks to the CS payments and feminist courts you’ll be poor for 18 years.

Watch her head for the Hills!

Max – Sydney

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At 2:06 AM, mfsob said…

Let’s see … $70,000 plus and counting to get that horrendous bitch from hell out of my life. Am I poor? Financially, maybe. But emotionally, I am rich beyond my wildest imaginings.

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At 4:12 AM, Anonymous said…

A friend of mine just LIVED with his girlfriend for a few months (not even married), and he was telling me that he stands to lose his home because she is entitled to half of his assets.

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At 5:01 AM, Mamonaku187 said…

90 MUTHA FREAKING percent?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

WTF!!!

If there was any argument against getting married… surely this article has to make the Top Ten list.

I mean cmon! If you break M.J. like this… nobody’s safe!!

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At 6:38 AM, Boyd-Boyd said…

Many men >are< stupid, or at the least, damn fools. You better believe it. Try counseling some of these boobs about marriage, and see how far it gets you. I’ve just about given up. If a guy is stupid enough to get married, then he deserves what he gets. Stupidity is it’s own reward.

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At 6:43 AM, Anonymous said…

get a prenup

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At 8:51 AM, Anonymous said…

Don’t fucking marry.

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At 10:16 AM, Anonymous said…

Do not tell that to a woman or even a mangina: they will tell you that she is entitled to it because he would not have earned so much without the woman.
So basically they tell you that she is the earner.

It is really sad for Jordan to loose his so hard earned wealth and his children.

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At 10:18 AM, Anonymous said…

Second point: Why on earth do some men seem thrilled to work their ass off for a woman, who sits at home doing no work, just nagging him? I’ll never understand that.

Because it is good to provide for a woman. It is the same as being capable of affording a cabrio or fancy home.
Both mean expenses but it seems to be fun.
It is only in our times that women nag so much.

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At 12:36 PM, Anonymous said…

90%

Funny, I don´t remember her making 90% of those points, or her winning 90% of those games or obtaining 90% of the MVPs. What was her profession before she met MJ and what were her prospects? Oh never mind.

What kind of world are we living in?

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At 1:29 PM, NHY said…

Ouch, poor guy.

Imagine…. or should I say WHEN she cleans poor MJ up in the femni – nazi divorce courts…. poor guy.

Poor guys are not going to wake up, they’ve lied to by everything, the media, its all propaganda. Its all around us.

This is really sad, that is all I can say.

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At 9:42 PM, bodyfascist.com said…

what i don’t understand is why guys again and again are stupid enough not putting up a contract that holds water soon enough (not to mention putting on a condom if you don’t want a family).

however, i’m aware that the first half won’t solve e.g. the custody prob, as well as plenty times it’s difficult seeing your kids even when you’re officially entitled to.

and yup, am glad i’m not living in the uk with these new laws about having to do so even if you’re only living together while not being married. you won’t hear me saying too many good things about switzerland, but at least as compared to 20 years ago, now after a divorce courts expect wifey to work too.

so in the end imho at least partly it comes down to legislation, i.e. lobbying, campaigning, organising, usual political legwork. if everybody shooting their mouth off here and elsewhere would do so, already would be a beginning. but better blame feminism, manginas, blahblahblah.

hey, anyone of you would enjoy living in the 50ies or 18hundreds? myself, hell no. as little as in a relationship i’d like slaving 50 hours a week underpaid so she can play the housewife and my boss can make some more millions. (by the way, just telling my girlfriends so from the beginning up to now always worked …)

i embrace feminism insofar as it’s about equal opportunities and shared responsabilities, and i respect those who mean it, even if they’re taking shit from the supremacist ones just for doing so, and instead of lumping all feminists and women together, i prefer judging them individually rsp. holding them responsible for their own demands, just like i want to be judged myself.

at the end of the day, it’s up to everyone. don’t just moan, do something. i know some of you do, but re: a lot of commenters on this blog, i’m not too impressed. think about it not just from your own, but with a broader perspective. spitting gob and blood and hurling insults in small incestual circles of like-minded imho sure won’t do the trick.

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At 11:00 PM, beestmaster said…

“What was her profession before she met MJ”

Professional whore

Men simply need to wake up and mobilize and fight the feminist tsunami – which is already on its 3rd wave…

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At 11:36 PM, Paul Parmenter said…

Just some observations on the comments on this thread.

Firstly, pre-nups are useless in the UK. Divorce court judges simply ignore them, so don’t waste your time with them unless you are in a jurisdiction that recognises them.

Secondly, the comments that men are their own worst enemies is right on the button. There are none so blind as those who will not see, particularly when they have obligingly pushed their eyes onto the stilettos that our rotten society so carefully sharpens for them.

Thirdly despite the stupidity of those men who still cling to the romantic image of marriage like the passengers dancing on the Titanic while the deadly water prepares to engulf them, there are increasing numbers of men who are waking up and passing on the message to avoid the decaying wreckage that marriage has now become. We should not underestimate blogs like this. They may give the superficial appearance of a bunch of losers moaning about how bad relationships with women have become, but there is a deeper value. These are very important forums for guys who smell something bad about the state of our society and its institutions, and who need to know that they are not alone. Not very long ago we would all have been lone voices crying in the wilderness, divided and conquered. Now we can talk to others who have made the same discoveries we have, exchange ideas, get information and receive support. These are all vital pre-requisites for action and, eventually, change for the better.

And incidentally a piece of action by one individual can go a long way. Every single person can make their own decisions. It’s like a huge army marching the same way. You can easily get the impression that it is all but impossible to turn the whole column round and get them to march in the opposite direction. But you don’t have to turn the entire column as one; all you need is for individual soldiers to turn themselves around and the whole picture can change in an instant. And you don’t need everyone to turn. It only takes a few to do so to disrupt the whole march. Just have the courage of your convictions and face the way you want to, not the way others tell you.

Keep it up Duncan, you tell it like it is and you are providing a vital public service to guys whom the rest of our society would just like to kick into the gutter. But we are not going to let them.

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At 12:03 AM, Panzer said…

“i embrace feminism insofar as it’s about equal opportunities and shared responsibilities.”

Sorry man but thats the last thing it is about. It is all based on lies and deceit, any facts that do come their way are twisted to favor a certain outcome. I do agree with you, I would not want to live in the 1950s. Other than Rock-n-Roll, that decade was terrible. Although the past can help solve some problems, yearning to much for it does not lead to progress.
We are doing something besides complaining, we are telling women that until things improve, we are walking away. Some here continue to date, others dont, either way the end result is the same, we are not getting involved in any kind of serious relationship. Sometimes doing nothing is the most powerful thing you can do, hey it seems to be working here.

Panzer

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At 4:05 AM, Joseph said…

If a guy like Michael Jordan is going to still play the field – then why marry? That only means he is going to have to cheat.

Well, solution is easy: just don’t get married to begin with! Which is also the only foolproof way to avoid divorce, too!

BTW, I think there’s some law that after the 10-year mark, women get entitled to much more of her hubby’s wealth or something – which is why a lot of woman countdown and stick it out till the first decade, then file right after…

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At 4:54 AM, Malik Starks said…

“Combine this with our basic instinct to reproduce, support and protect our families even if it means laying down our lives for them, and hay presto you have a walking/talking life support system.

Actually men don’t really have such an instinct at least not by nature, man’s basic desire is to have sex as much sex as possible preferably with more than one woman. The traditional family unit of today with a man and one wife is really a Judeo-Christian model.(Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I may be!)This whole thing has only worked because society previously worked to strengthen the bond between his father and children. Feminism says that this role doesn’t need to be strengthened, and now society is unraveling before our very eyes.

That said I am not waiting for men to wake up, most of them have been conditioned by society to get married and have kids because it’s still the thing to do. Anyone who dislikes reading and discussing ideas, which characterizes the majority of young men and boys I’ve known, is not likely to see the light. Feminism is now leading an endless procession young male lambs to the slaughter of the family court system, which will soon become the primary breadwinner for society.

This is why all of us here who have awoken to what is happening need to get the word out in whatever ways we can. And not just by word of mouth but also perhaps using the creative arts, and most importantly leading by example. Most men simply don’t have positive examples of men who have chosen to remain single as a lifestyle decision.

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At 5:47 AM, Cornholio Mangus said…

Hmmmmmm…..

Good points, everyone.

I’m just wondering if it’s time for The Sue Character to come vomit on this thread.

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At 11:47 AM, Wobs said…

This reminds me of the Colin Montgomery divorce. The wife divorced the millionaire golfer because he was obsessed with golf.

Women really like to kill the golden goose once its layed “enough” eggs don’t they.

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At 4:16 PM, Anonymous said…

Neither a groom nor cohabitator be, fuck, duck, and then run free…

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At 5:00 PM, Anonymous said…

Well, the 90% is only to “allow her to live the lifestyle she is accustomed to”.

Wrong honey! For most women, the lifestyle they are accustomed to is working some kind of office or sales job making low wages, while whining about the injustice of it all and staking out their next sucker boyfriend.

This woman has been living the lifestyle her husband is accustomed to, which he has generously shared with her. You can’t tell me that with the amount of money Jordan has, his wife had to contribute anything besides making some kids. The wife of a man making millions of dollars a year doesn’t cook or clean or manage the house while he is at work, or watch the kids. She sits on her ass or thinks up new ways to spend his hard earned money.

She rode the money train until she got tired, and will now take at least half of his earnings for just taking up space in his house. No marriage for me thanks. What is mine is mine!

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At 6:20 PM, BR said…

Just wanted to say, excellent post by Paul Parmenter, I completely agree.

It’s time for the power of the individual to be recognized.

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At 6:55 PM, Anonymous said…

so in the end imho at least partly it comes down to legislation, i.e. lobbying, campaigning, organising, usual political legwork. if everybody shooting their mouth off here and elsewhere would do so, already would be a beginning. but better blame feminism, manginas, blahblahblah.

That’s true, but this is a TRUE grassroots movement. Feminism was a top-down elitist movement instigated by communist intellectuals and bankrolled by their buddies. Housewives in the 1950s didn’t all of a sudden go crazy. The media, government, and academics instigated the social change and led the way. Women followed.

There are almost no males at the national level (media, politicians) pointing out the fraud and atrocities being committed on families and males by the current twisted system. I guess politicians, et al are too busy profiting from the mess.

So this will have to build to a critical mass of disgusted men + reverberations will need to be felt throughout the society (marriage strike, mating strike, paying attention to women strike) before it goes to the next level.

We are doing fine. One step at a time.

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At 6:58 PM, Anonymous said…

Do not tell that to a woman or even a mangina: they will tell you that she is entitled to it because he would not have earned so much without the woman.
So basically they tell you that she is the earner.

That’s true. Bill Gates was broke and on skid row before he met Melinda.

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At 10:04 PM, R. Daneel Olivaw said…

Paul Parmenter is correct in his statement concerning pre-nups. They can be ignored in American courts as well. Matt LeBlanc had his pre-nup thrown out by the judge in his divorce case. His wife didn’t even ask for it to be thrown out. I’m currently researching ways for men to protect assets from predatory wives and girlfriends. I don’t want any men to end up like the poor sap in Pennsylvania who spent TEN years in prison/jail for refusing to give his hard earned money to his skank ex wife.

R. Daneel Olivaw

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At 10:19 PM, Anonymous said…

What another poster said before is correct, human beings are naturally promiscuous, it’s the thug bad boys and women that are following their natural instincts, while weak and stupid men that cling absurdly to what society told them previously are the ones acting against nature. It isn’t your “instinct” to marry and be stuck with one woman, just at isn’t a woman’s “instinct” to be stuck to you, although a woman’s instinct is definitely to find one provider for her children, while mating with as many men as possible. This is basic human reproductive theory that you can learn in high level biology, at least before it gets completely stamped out by feminism since it’s the truth. There are some “uncivilized” tribes that still practice this natural model. In this model generally a man will care for his sister’s children, because you are certain of the parentage at least. The female body is designed to disguise who the father is, and to allow the best sperm to reach and fertilize the egg.

Religion and old society could be seen as “oppressing” women if you want, but in reality everything was done to prevent men from destroying themselves. Men absolutely can not control women, never have been and never will. A man that doesn’t train himself to deal with women will be destroyed by a woman’s natural instincts, and probably be crushed for life, a woman is easily able to move on. You can un-learn and train yourself to behave more on base human behavioral patterns by becoming a PUA, if you insist on dealing with women these days that is the only real way.

We will now watch our society unravel and progress stagnate. If you are religious, I’m sure there are signs of Armageddon, and I’ll be damned if we haven’t hit most of them. I don’t think that means the world will end, I just think it means those are good signs of the death of any civilization. I personally welcome a new one, I’m not racist in the least so I don’t care who makes the rules as long as they’re fair to the rest of us.

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At 10:29 PM, CLovIS said…

I’m just wondering if it’s time for The Sue Character to come vomit on this thread.

Nah, I think this “Sue” entity has been rumbled lol.

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At 11:54 PM, Peter said…

As a gay male, I’m so happy I don’t have to deal with this silliness. I feel no attraction to women at all, and I just don’t like talking to them, either.

Kisses

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At 11:57 PM, Anonymous said…

Would it be better for a man to be in cohabitation than in marriage? What are the laws in UK? France? Sweden?

I know it is better not to have a woman in your life at all. But when you do, is it better to marry her? Or not?

Please, excuse my English. I am not an Englishman, but a man in European Union, nevertheless.

Jeg.

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At 4:35 AM, Nilk said…

The wife divorced the millionaire golfer because he was obsessed with golf.

Colour me stupid, but surely if you marry a pro golfer, and a millionaire one at that, his golfing obsession is a given, right?

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At 1:45 PM, Penrick said…

It doesn’t matter if his wife gets everything. I’m willing to marry him and start fresh. Read my blog and help me become the next Mrs. Jordan.

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At 5:52 PM, Anonymous said…

Difster, in many states pernups can be torn up at the whim of any mangina judge. An example I well know is the state of Iowa, but I am sure there are others.

First comment, Anonymous 10:;08 PM. Cool comment. Yeah, that is the sort of the rest of the story I enjoy, the mangina smart asses who treat us like fools, it’s real justice when their cojones are ripped out by the roots.

I married in 1975 to a Mexican woman. By 1985 I realized only a complete fool would marry with the existing laws in place. It made no sense to divorce to avoid divorce, so I have been married 31.5 years now. But, I am totally in support of dontget married.

Likewise, to answer your question, get hold of THE MANIPULATED MALE (OR MAN?) by Esther Vilar. She explains it very well.

Anonymous 10:38 Pm. Some of us did take a stand 20 years ago. I did everything a single person could do, but one person can accomplish nothing. And what you say about men being our worst enemies is absolutely true. Most crap I took came from men, not women. Though a totally faithful husband, at coffee time, I usually sat surrounded by women, the manginas couldn’t figure it out.

Once one of my women friends was asked by a dummy how she could be my friend when I was a woman-hater. He told me what she said, and I understood it better than he did. She said I wasn’t a woman-hater, I just hated feminists. (How true!) And, she said “We don’t always like his opinions, but we women know what he stands for.”

Woemn, as hard as they try to control you, really want a man with convictions and values he is willing to defend. The manginas only stood for banging as many women as they could. I had stong convictions, also never ‘hit on’ my women friends, and this meant more to them than being supportive of feminist goals.

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At 6:00 PM, Anonymous said…

Unlike most of you, I LIVED In the fifties, and it was a great time, unless you were black in Mississippi. Who on earth told you it was not a good time?

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At 2:22 AM, Panzer said…

“Who on earth told you it was not a good time?”

History. The Red Scare, Keeping Up With the Jones’s, Leave it to Beaver, Civil Rights(as you mentioned), Korean War(testing ground for Vietnam, oh and it still is refered to as a police action, jeez), I could probably think of more reasons given time. Recent trend I have seen is this whole “retro 80s” thing. I grew up int the 80s, and I got to say it sucked.
I was wrong on Rock-n-Roll being the only good thing that did come out of that decade, they did know how to make good cars.

Panzer

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At 8:15 AM, bodyfascist.com said…

about the 50ies, don’t know where you lived n how, but eg in switzerland it was illegal living with a woman without being married, ie you were legally forced doing so. in case you weren’t married, janitor would snitch, coppers raid your appt, found 2 toothbrushes and you were up. not to mention if you were gay or just livin with other males in the same appt or not dressing the way you were supposed to or somebody reported you as a ‘communist’. or the authorities wouldn’t like your behaviour anyway, and you would end up in a psych ward, getting ect and/or lobotomy pronto, as it was happening in lotsa other countries and definitely in the us as well. which are just some examples why i’m glad not having lived then (though many things are going back in a similar direction, constitutional rights good bye n all).

re: feminists i know many of you disagree, but i still think it’s not a smart thing to do lumping all of them together, neither in real life nor tactically, cause i know a few feminists who are honest and have similar troubles with the less honest sort (and these with them you bet). i’d like to be judged by my individual convictions and actions and nothing else, so in return i’d like doing so towards others as well, male or female, mra or feminist, you name it, but that’s just my humble opinion of course.

btw didn’t say earlier everybody here is doing nothing but complaining, but it’s still my impression more rational reflection + action and less whining wouldn’t exactly harm

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At 3:48 PM, Lisa said…

Divorce laws are definitely tough on men. The mystery to me is that law makers have predominately been men. Illinois, to my knowledge, does not have a female majority of legislators, judges or lawyers. Illinois has never had a female Governor. Men have representation. What gives?

My husband and I don’t have a prenup. We both entered our marriage with assets. We both have something to lose. Maybe that will be incentive for us both to continue to work hard at our merger. I have no desire to enter the dating circles again and the thought of being a single mom is overwhelming. I can’t imagine divorcing my husband. I hope he can’t imagine it either.

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At 6:09 PM, Peter said…

I’m a thirty-two year old recently outed gay male, and was once married. For five horrible long years. My wife divorced me, and left me broken, financially and emotionally. I’ve since developed a relationship with a gay man I met socially, also a victim of a bitter divorce, and the rest is history. It’s not for everyone, but my life is finally happy.

I work as a secretary to a man-friendly firm of lawyers who specialize in family law here in Phoenix, and I watch the carnage parade through our offices every day. I’m present during many legal proceedings and hearings, and I can tell you that straight men have two enemies-

1) Themselves

2) Women

In that order.

Peter

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At 6:43 PM, Anonymous said…

Divorce laws are definitely tough on men. The mystery to me is that law makers have predominately been men. Illinois, to my knowledge, does not have a female majority of legislators, judges or lawyers. Illinois has never had a female Governor. Men have representation. What gives?

Woman voters.

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At 8:14 PM, Lisa said…

Anon@6:43, I don’t think ‘women voters’ is the reason. In my 17 years as a registered voter I have never once seen a ballot initiative about divorce laws. Women voters are not putting a lot of females in powerful roles. Perhaps you are suggesting male politicians are making these decisions attract women voters? If so, they are being very coy about their efforts. It’s not part of their campaign speeches. I’ve lived in 3 states and haven’t a clue what the male legislators are doing to make divorce more favorable for women.

I think there are men and women profiting from divorce in America. Attorneys, financial planners, real estate, etc. There are a lot of industries that rely on the exchange of assets in a divorce to make a fortune. Many of the politicians in my area are tied to these professions. Interesting coincidence to me. Nope, I’m not convinced this rests squarely on the shoulders of women voters.

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At 5:41 AM, Anonymous said…

Good thing Michael Jordan doesn’t own the basketball team! It would suck to see it liquidated and sold to give his ex “her” half.

This happens in many states with small business owners, typically those who have sole proprietorships or operations that are otherwise not incorporated. My father knew a man who owned and worked at an auto shop here in Virginia. Several mechanics worked for him. His wife had nothing to do with the shop in any way—didn’t work there as a receptionist or anything. One day she decided she wanted a divorce, citing “occupational desertion” (along the same lines as the golfer Colin Montgomery some of you have referred to), as he spent so many hours at his shop to make a decent living. She stayed at home, by the way.

You guessed it. The judge ordered the business liquidated, throwing the man and his mechanics out of work, so cupcake could get “her” half of the assets that she had done nothing to build. In theory this isn’t supposed to happen, but it did, and I have heard of other such cases. And this was some years ago, back in the late 1970s, long before divorce got as bad as it is now.

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At 8:59 PM, Anonymous said…

In my 17 years as a registered voter I have never once seen a ballot initiative about divorce laws.

Very little legislation is enacted through ballot initiative or referendum. Most occurs in-chamber.

Women voters are not putting a lot of females in powerful roles.

Don’t have to. Male politicians are doing a fine job.

Perhaps you are suggesting male politicians are making these decisions attract women voters?

I’m not suggesting it. I am plainly stating it.

If so, they are being very coy about their efforts. It’s not part of their campaign speeches.

Actually they have been pretty open about the importance of the VAWA (aka, Endangered Species Act for Women), Family Medical Leave Act (paid leave for ‘career women’), all men (except politicians, of course) are potential sexual predators (where potential = not caught yet), etc…

VAWA is particularly lovely.

I’ve lived in 3 states and haven’t a clue what the male legislators are doing to make divorce more favorable for women.

No Fault Divorce. Doesn’t need to be passed every year. Only passed once. And like a poisoned seed it grows and bears its fruit. Family Courts (aka Kangaroo Courts for Men), not legislatures, is where the daily damage is done (out of sight).

I think there are men and women profiting from divorce in America. Attorneys, financial planners, real estate, etc. There are a lot of industries that rely on the exchange of assets in a divorce to make a fortune. Many of the politicians in my area are tied to these professions. Interesting coincidence to me.

There would be no divorce industry without women regularly “cashing out” by exercising their escape clause under No-Fault Divorce option.

Nope, I’m not convinced this rests squarely on the shoulders of women voters.

Without women embracing feminism and no-fault divorce there would be no “this”.

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At 11:59 PM, Paul Parmenter said…

Lisa comments: “Divorce laws are definitely tough on men. The mystery to me is that law makers have predominately been men. Illinois, to my knowledge, does not have a female majority of legislators, judges or lawyers. Illinois has never had a female Governor. Men have representation. What gives?”

Anonymous 8.59 summarises it nicely. I would add for Lisa’s benefit that the female influence on legislators and their legislation does not so much lie in women voting directly for other women, who then pass anti-male laws; that is not happening.

But what is happening is that male legislators are fully aware of female voting power, so they act out the fantasy role of knights in shining armour riding to the rescue of damsels in distress by beating off those brutal, oppressive males who threaten the damsels (and also incidentally threaten the power base of the knights). Thus the elite men in power keep themselves there by hammering other males and presenting themselves to females as the great protectors. Women duly respond by showering them with plaudits, votes etc… It’s a winning formula. Until, of course, the dispossessed males, who never were the oppressive brutes they are made out to be, get fed up and start hitting back.

I can’t speak for the picture in America, but it is a well established pattern in the UK. I suspect it is pretty universal.

Now just consider a couple of points. If I am right, how reprehensible are the male elite? And how reprehensible are women who go along with the charade and encourage the elite men to wreck the lives of other men, just so that women can get what they want?

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At 12:14 PM, Anonymous said…

Paul..I agree with your synopsis. I felt at my divorce (MCP roasting?) that the judge seemed to take some delight in panning my life as a ‘failed’ male.
I fought hard for my kids..and even the opposing barrister shook my hand afterwards…which was nice -as I was paying him via the ‘Legal Aid’ fix.
The issues were professionally twisted by ‘experts’- in private.
A disgrace indeed.
I never see my kids from that debacle now -and have never even met my grandchildren.
I will join the UK Mens Movement as a practical adjunct to ‘moaning’ on here.

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At 12:23 PM, Anonymous said…

BTW: Harriet Harman(UK) has plans afoot to deal with the ‘little problem’ of co-habitees not getting ‘enuff’
(money on split -that is,not sex).
Though not,on first sight,as draconian as current ‘scam’ divorce- that won’t last long once the ‘she-wolves’ and their ‘parasites’ start circling.
‘Prenups’ (enforceable) MUST be a part of any new laws to solve this utter mess.

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