Women better at being friends than us men, claims twat


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07 March 2007

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This never, ever happens apparently.

Women ‘better at friendships’

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Women form deep and lasting friendships while men make fickle friends over a pint, according to research published today.

Snigger, chuckle.

Females make “deeper and more moral” pals than their male counterparts, who are “calculating” in who they choose to call their mates, according to a new study by the University of Manchester.

Ho-ho-ho.

The four-year investigation concluded that friendships between men are “fickle” and based on what what “they can get out of it”.

Giggle, guffaw!

Dr Gindo Tampubolon, from the university’s Research Centre for Socio-Cultural Change, said men based their friendships on boozing in the pub.

He said: “Friendship between women seems to be fundamentally different to friendship between men.

“It’s much deeper and more moral: it’s about the relationship itself rather than what they can get out of it.

“Women tend to keep their friends through thick and thin across geography and social mobility.

Bwhahahahaha!

Holy shit, what planet are these fuck-witted arse biscuits on?

Women’s friendships are as fickle as anything. The backstabbing amongst them is incredible. You see it in workplaces most, the way they’ll often be charming with one-another (in a way that is blatantly superficial to men who witness it) then bitch about each other as soon as the bitched-about female is out of earshot.

They’re not moral – in friendships or otherwise – these days either. They seem to have no intrinsic morality. Nor honour.

It is men who make better friends. We stick together and look out for one another. Most of all, what’s this shit about women keeping friendships across “social mobility”? They dispense with friends as soon as they rise on the career ladder (or, more frequently, marry a man further up the career ladder than their friend’s husbands are.)

In the workplace, male managers often chat happily with guys younger than themselves and lower down in the hierarchy; it may not count as friendship, but nonetheless, with men, bosses will natter about football or whatever with the 17-year-old office junior. With female bosses, they look down on everyone, male and female alike. Beneath them in the company? They they wouldn’t wipe their arse with you.

There was one woman who was quite popular with other females in my last workplace but who, on getting some largely worthless promotion to Team Leader (was there ever such a job title before women flooded the workplace?) she treated her former friends – now beneath her – like shit, patronising them and not going out for lunch with them. In turn, they hated her all of a sudden.

And men are only interested in friendships so that we can see “what we can get out of it?” What? I’ve never thought “Hey, I’ll be friends with this guy because he is an IT Technician so can help fix my computer if it blows up, but not with this guy, because he doesn’t have a car so will always be trying to scrounge lifts off of me.”

As for women’s attitudes to relationships…well, fuck knows about that. This crappy study doesn’t tell us. Saying women are “interested in how they express themselves and form their identity” doesn’t really mean much to me, although to be fair that’s probably because I’m not a worthless professor of “Socio-Cultural Change” like worthless Dr. Gyno Tampon.

The fact that women concern themselves with “the relationship itself” is fairly significant I suppose; women are indeed concerned with The Relationship. Generally, us men don’t give it much thought to “relationships”, or unless humouring a girlfriend, don’t even use the term in everyday conversations. We just have friends we get on with, we don’t evaluate and analyse relationships and such shit. It’s like the word “socialising”, a stupid term created and employed by women. Women are the ones that Socialise, like it’s a big event, a significant activity (I’ve even seen women put “Socialising with friends” under “hobbies” on job application forms.) On the other hand, us men don’t “socialise”, we just hang out with pals.

“Adding to the bad news for male prestige, the study confirms the stereotype that men are likely to base their friendship on social drinking.”

Is it? I didn’t realise this. Maybe it’s just because guys happen to go to the pub with their mates occasionally, and that means it’s time to denounce men as booze-hounds as well as disloyal to each other (young British women actually binge-drink more than men do, but then saying women base their friendships on social drinking would be seen as criticism, and criticising women is a Neddy No-No in academic fields.)

Interestingly enough, the other week a young woman at work admitted most of her close friends were guys, justifying this by saying men were “less bitchy and more loyal” than women. The other women – despite being habitual man-bashers – actually had to nod and agree…whilst staring wearily at each other!

No doubt this study – that probably cost a shit-load of cash from either taxpayers or student fees – was done in the most outstandingly inept fashion anyway, asking women “Are you interested in the relationship itself and are you a good moral pal, or are you a shallow back-stabbing cunt?” Well, at the very least it’ll consist of asking people to assess themselves in a subjective manner, which – especially when asking women subjects – is hardly scientific.

It’s annoying that any column-space or attention is given to absurd, unreliable, skewed and highly dodgy “studies” like this, that are presented as reliable and as scientific when they’re anything but. They could at least let someone like me rip the thing apart on the same webpage/newspaper page.

posted by Duncan Idaho @ 6:23 PM
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At 7:02 PM, Peregrine John said…

Let’s just say that Dr. Tampubolon’s name may have been slightly misspelled.

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At 7:59 PM, unpleasant bitter git said…

Peregrine John said…

“Let’s just say that Dr. Tampubolon’s name may have been slightly misspelled.”

Yes John. I too have noticed that some feminists names seem to be misspelled.

Shere Hite being a prime example.

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At 8:45 PM, Captain Zarmband said…

These surveys are complete twaddle. They are usually sponsored by some company to be used in conjunction with their marketing, which, of course, is targetted at women. They start from the position of telling women what they want to hear in order to sell them some worthless product.

The only thing that these surveys tell us is that women have enormous egos that can be easily manipulated by businesses wanting to sell them worthless trinkets. Females fall for this trick every time.

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At 8:55 PM, Anonymous said…

Yes. Females are WONDERFUL towards one another.

Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls by Rachel Simmons

The author, who visited 30 schools and talked to 300 girls, catalogues chilling and heartbreaking acts of aggression, including the silent treatment, note-passing, glaring, gossiping, ganging up, fashion police, and being nice in private/mean in public. She decodes the vocabulary of these sneak attacks, explaining, for example, three ways to parse the meaning of “I’m fat.”

Review:
I was never targeted in school, but both my sisters were. They’ve grown up to be covert bullies as a result. I guess they decided if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em. I’ve worked in offices with GROWN WOMEN who are displaying this emotional adolescent social dynamic. It’s very disturbing because as much as I’d like to enjoy the company of women, I feel deeply distrustful of them. I think this book did a fine job of presenting this subject, except the author could have gone more into the fact that some girls never grow up and persist with this cliquish nightmare well into their 30’s and 40’s. I think, since the woman’s movement is still relatively young, this is a transitional stage and soon, like artists, even traditional conservative women will bravely face the challenge to grow up and behave like evolved human adults instead of mean little schoolyard bullies. I wish I’d had this book to read long ago-it explained so much that no one talks about because of how invisible and insidious this behavior is. It’s the victim that gets called bitter, oversensitive, and crazy. I hope every woman reads this so they won’t role model this method of venting their aggressions to another generation of girls.

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At 8:56 PM, VoodooJock said…

I’m definitely calculating in who I choose for my friends. I just don’t let any asshole out there become my friend, I usually make sure they’re not shitbirds first.

How the hell can any woman, particularly considering since most women jump into bed with just about any thug who soaks their panties, be considered a better friend than a guy who doesn’t just let anyone have his friendship?

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At 9:01 PM, Anonymous said…

This is a study and these “scientists” get paid for this shit?! I knew I was in the wrong line of work. Women are absolutely cruel to each other, I have never seen anything like it. Friendships between women, if you can call them that, are calculated on what status they will bring to those involved. Men will just accept each other as they are. Women will not, they are always trying to “improve” things. Whatever the hell that means. Of course, these “scientists” had to knock drinking, social or otherwise as well. Bastards. This article is a mirror image of the actual truth when it come to men vs. women. Talk about projection.

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At 9:57 PM, Lisa said…

Bull hucky. I consider myself a pretty nice person and even I have trouble making friends with women. All of the jabs and snide remarks really add up over time. I had a gal who I thought was a good friend who didn’t come to a dinner I had to celebrate my marriage because she had just broken up with someone and it was too painful for her to see me happy…QUOTE. I had another woman who made negative remarks about another friend of hers because she got pregnant easily while this woman was still trying to conceive. The nerve! How dare that other woman have a child without considering this gal’s feelings. Insane. Women are always, always in competition with one another. If you are dating a guy, trust your ‘friend’ to flirt with him. If you are getting married or planning to have a baby, trust a ‘friend’ to attempt to race you to the front of the line or be mad because you are pulling something off before her. If you are thin, trust your ‘friend’ to discredit everything you say about healthy living/lifestyle because you have it so easy. I had a gal who mentioned to me how frustrated she was with her weight. When I shared some healthy recipes with her, she was ticked that I was giving advice when I clearly have never had to struggle with my weight. Um, hello. Maybe I don’t have to struggle because I eat these recipes??? A fat person asking another fat person how to lose weight makes zippo sense. It’s like asking a poor person for investment advice.

I have 2 friends. One is my twin sister and another is a woman who might as well be my sister. That’s it. I had a cluster of friends I hung out with here before my daughter came along. Things were already fragile before her birth because I refused to split the bill evenly amongst us when we went out. These gals always ordered the expensive stuff plus alcohol. I like to eat cheap and I don’t drink. My portion would come to around $12 and these gals expected me to chip in $30-$40 because it would just be easier to split the check evenly. Sure it would. After my daughter was born I was completely written out of the circle. Not only was I annoying, but I had also become a domestic bore. Whatever.

My husband, who also doesn’t drink (well, not much) has had the same friends for years. Through changes in economic status, marital status, parental status…it didn’t matter. They’ve stuck together. I’m lucky they are now my friends too.

Captain Zarmband, I agree with the the twaddle part.

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At 11:07 PM, this is it said…

Anonymous 9:01 PM said…

“This is a study and these “scientists” get paid for this shit?!”

No.

This is a typical “YOU GO GRRLLL” feminist propaganda piece that was probably funded by someone ‘behind the scenes’.

When you know what to look for, you’ll see this stuff in the mainstream media all the fucking time.

* Articles showing how ‘strong & empowered’ women are.

* Articles showing how women are always ‘victimized’ and ‘discriminated’ against.

* Articles showing that women are always inherently right whatever the situation.

* Articles showing that women have some sort of ‘special’ wisdom because they were born with a cunt instead of a penis.

The purpose of all this is to convince women that whatever they ‘feeeeel’ is right because of what they are fed by the mainstream media. And of course their ‘feeelings’ should always be backed up by the law instead of the concepts of right/wrong and true justice. This in turn will destabilize and eventually destroy the male headed family unit for the benefit of those who pull the strings of the US and UK governments. And it’s working very well as you can see if you follow MRA blogs like this one.

* More female single parent families = More dysfunctional Kids

* More dysfunctional kids = More crime

* More crime = More need for the ‘ID card solution’

* ID card solution = Replaced with ‘micro-chipping the populace’

* Micro-chipped populace = TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL

Check this out:

http://www.savethemales.ca/130302.html

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At 2:00 AM, Anonymous said…

All the people who were my friends when I was a teen still remain my friends, and we see each other from time to time. My sisters don’t even like the women they used to be friends when they were teens and even avoid then although I still remember pledges of life lasting friendship when they were teens. Maybe a females best friend in her early/mid teens really is her first boyfriend.

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At 10:03 AM, Jessica said…

Let us not get into baseless, irrational discussion as to who are better friends, men or women….it all depends on a person’s temperament and nature. Anyways, it’s true that any kind of biased attitude towards friendship is not of any good. All that matters is in what light you see friendship. Do drop by my blog coz I have shared very many thoughts about friends and friendship.

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At 10:21 AM, robert said…

Its not a question of good and bad or calculating friends…everyone does calculate things while being friends if he or she is sensible enough…gender doesn’t really justify the same…none of us would ever go and be friends with a woodcutter and start taking his advice…in today’s life women might be more emotional than us men but they aren’t stupid anymore…what say guys! best wishes 🙂

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At 10:39 AM, Field Marshall Watkins said…

this is it…

I must say this is correct. It is exactly what the international banking families want.

Men are being attacked on many fronts.

1 – By feminists/ manginas and pro-feminist women being selfish, destroying families and showing men no support or reward for their hard work/ constant uphill struggles.

2 – By the mainstream media demonizing them, telling them they are worthless and should just kow tow to women’s demands purely because she is special and he is just a slave to them. (FUCK EM)

3 – In the workplace, where pro-female laws/ rules/ attitudes rule supreme. Which actually impact on business performance and productivity, which weakens the profits and therefore the country economy.

4 – When crimes are committed against men by women, the law still sides with women.

5 – In marriage or relationships, well, I don’t even need to go there…

I’ve got to fight back. Fuck the feminists, the manginas, the mainstream media, the bankers, the NWO, the puppet Govts. It’s ok though, big things are changing now.

BBC Reported collapse 20 minutes before it fell.
http://anotherdayinthenwo.blogspot.com/

http://digg.com/users/FMWatkins/news/dugg

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At 2:07 PM, Anonymous said…

Lisa,

Is your twin sister as benevolent toward our cause as you? Is she as cognizant of the principles of cause and effect as you are? If so, bring her on by. I’m sure a good many of us would like to hear her assessment.

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At 3:00 PM, Anonymous said…

Off Topic:

Duncan,

What happened to your other post (yesterday) that had the picture of the guy who was broke? The subject was women bleeding guys dry.

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At 5:32 PM, Anonymous said…

Someone must have been off their Meds. This useless BS, no doubt comes from Some Academic Institution that is giving out PC nonsense. And people got paid to put up this nonsense!!

All you have to do is see how Women compete with each other to see this is complete Bovine Excrement. LMAO

Khankrumthebulgar

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At 7:09 PM, Paul Parmenter said…

Yes, here we go again. There seems to be an entire industry consisting of pseudo-academics whom nobody has ever heard of, conducting years of research ( = years of riding a gravy train paid for by somebody else) into differences between men and women.

And the results are always the same: differences are discovered, followed immediately by a subjective value judgement on the results, unsupported by any evidence, which assumes that women’s ways of doing things are always right, and men’s ways of doing things are always wrong. Usually with a handful of predictably misandric slurs thrown in for good measure. The report is then pushed under the noses of the press where it is seized on by the chattering feminist element who gloat over the results and use them to reinforce their prejudices in yet another male-bashing article.

So what have we here? Another dubious and strung-out piece of research (over 4 years but covering 10 years, whatever that is supposed to mean; but in any case nice work if you can get it) by some obscure individual (what has he ever done?), which has found differences between men and women in the formation of friendships. Followed immediately by the subjective and unjustifiable value judgement that “women are better” at it. Interspersed with the gratuitously insulting misandric comments e.g “men based their friendships on boozing in the pub” (with the implication that we need alcohol before we can make friends; or maybe we are all drunkards).

Did this mangina bother to talk to war veterans, whom I have heard and seen many times moved to tears when they recall their wartime friendships with their fellow servicemen who were killed? And as Dr Gindo insists that such friendships are based on what these men “can get out of it”, perhaps he would care to explain exactly what those poor devils did get out of their friendships?

And as for the jibe about morality, this guy needs to learn what the word means. Women’s behaviour across the board teaches us time and again that morality is a foreign concept to huge numbers of them. In fact all my experience and observation of women and men over many years tells me that the results reported here are virtually the exact opposite of the truth. Men do not spend their entire lives boozing in pubs. Many of us never see the inside of one from one year’s end to the next. Does that mean we cannot possibly have any friends? Women are the fickle ones; the word has long been associated with the female sex, and for good reason. As for forming friendships for what you can get out of them, well that’s women all over. Men are just not that calculating.

Here is the fact of it. Women make more friends, and more readily, than men, for the simple reasons that they are far more dependent on support systems and feel the need for networks of like-minded chattering companions to whom they can unburden their worries and problems that they are incapable of resolving on their own; also women talk more than men, so they will inevitably make more contacts from whom they can build up friendships. There is nothing marvelous about any of this; it is just how women like to behave.

Men on the other hand are far more circumspect about making friends; they are wary of opening up to strangers and revealing their worries or ideas to others. They are far more independent, and much better at resolving their problems on their own without expecting an army of pals to do it for them. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with this; it works well for men because it suits our temperament. It is also a huge advantage if we are ever in circumstances where we are alone and have to find answers without help. Perhaps that is why men consistently come up with much better ideas than women. We can think independently and freely rather than relying on a consensus from a babbling committee.

There is no moral dimension to any of this, and it is utterly bogus to read any into these results.

So what is the actual use of this report? Does it have any function at all apart from providing shallow women with another opportunity to sneer at men? As far as I can see, the only use is as toilet paper or to light fires with. A complete waste.

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At 7:09 PM, Outcast Superstar said…

Hi Duncan

Women are getting so desperate that they are calling 911 over the wrong cheeseburger.

I got a video clip of an American Women calling 911 over this.

Duncan it’s priceless, I promise you will be laughing your ass of when you see this clip.

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At 7:41 PM, Duncan Idaho said…

What happened to your other post (yesterday)

Some raving feminist e-mailed me saying I would be reported for giving out confidential information on my blog so that I’d be closed down. I doubt if it would work but I figured it’s better to be safe than sorry. Besides, the post didn’t really tell us anything we didn’t already know, namely than men are FUCKED in the event of divorce.

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At 7:53 PM, arnold ziffel said…

Whenever I read things like this I always try to find out how the author defines “friend”. A lot of people use the term rather loosely. In the U.S. at least, “friend” can be used to describe anyone from a work acquaintance with whom you share lunch and casual conversation to someone for whom you’d empty your checking account and then max out a credit card to loan them money in an emergency. Since the author failed/refused to define “friend” I concluded that this is more feminist nonsense about (choose one):
A) “a woman’s way of knowing”;
B) “women’s greater emotional maturity”;
C) “women’s superior social skills”;
D) all of the above.

Voodoo Jock makes a good point. A lot of “research” is done either to support some company’s business plan, or, in academic settings, in order to provide academic cover for the current liberal pieties.

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At 8:29 PM, Lisa said…

Anon @ 2:07, my sister is under a rock when it comes to blogging. She doesn’t get it, actually. She does get how feminism is stripping away at the values of our country. She is seeing it from a different angle. My sister is a social worker in a nursing home. She helps people decide living wills, helps them apply for medicare and, well, all sorts of things. Many times she ends up being the closest thing to family these people have. She’s held the hand of many who have died and they would have been alone without her. She does this for a meager 37,000 a year. The assault on the family structure has led to many seniors entering nursing homes for less serious conditions and at earlier ages. Why? Think about it. If people aren’t even interested in caring for their children (unborn or otherwise) why would they invest any time or attention in caring for the elderly. Because women have boycotted the idea of being care givers to their families and men are still trapped in the office in order to pay the bills of their family (current and ex), there is no one to care for these souls. NO ONE. Families were meant to be together. If you looked at a family like a business, it makes perfect sense to keep it strong and intact. What a sensible way to share resources. Mother’s boo-hoo about how hard it is to raise kids these days. You know why? We’ve shattered our support systems and fragmented our lives from those who have the greatest potential to care. A friend of mine (and her 4 children) was recently deserted by her husband of 8 years for a woman he met on the internet. He just left. No goodbye to his wife or kids. He left the state to shack up with this person. Now, I think what he did is terrible, but I can totally see how it happened. He came from a family of 10 kids and wanted a big one for himself. He left because it was harder than he imagined. Now, how could he not realize how hard it would be? I’ll tell you. He grew up in a poor migrant family. Although they had few ‘things’, they had family. That family stuck together through thick and thin and helped care for everyone from baby to senior citizen. When he married my friend, he left that lifestyle in order to offer her a more settled way of living. They moved into a home on her family’s farm and started a life. Even though my friend was as good of a wife and partner as she knew to be, the drastic change in lifestyle was devastating. Even if you have a good partner to go the distance with, if it is just the two of you against the world, you still are in for some difficulties. Feminism has destroyed the importance of the home and the family (immediate and extended). It’s tragic. We are paying the price on so many levels.

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At 1:25 AM, mfsob said…

“Some raving feminist e-mailed me saying I would be reported for giving out confidential information on my blog.”

WTF??? That was a newspaper story, for Christ’s sake! *shakes head in wonder*

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At 2:28 PM, Anonymous said…

Duncan,

Don’t sweat the feminist threat. The case you described could have been any number of 1000’s of cases in the UK.

Any complaint would have to suggest malicious intent against one or both parties. The example you cited was anonymous and arguably a composite example of divorce settlements.

You are in the clear.

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At 3:58 AM, Anonymous said…

i wonder if you think this way about women do you still think the same about your useless mothers who gave you little if none attention when young and raised you to be empty and miserable.

cheers

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