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16 March 2007

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UK Government Program Teaching Four-Year-Olds about Homosexuality

Primary schools in the United Kingdom have begun teaching children as young as four about homosexuality, in anticipation of new anti-discrimination laws coming into effect next month, the Daily Mail reported earlier today.

Homosexuality-themed story books are being used in fourteen schools to introduce the children to the homosexual lifestyle. Among the texts in use are “King and King”, a fairy-tale about a prince who rejects three princesses before falling in love with another prince, “Spacegirl Pukes”, about a little girl with two mommies, and “And Tango Makes Three,” telling the story of two male penguins who fall in love at a New York zoo.

This is why I would never ever have children in this country. Not only is it the case that, thanks to feminism and slut-culture, there are very few young women who I feel would be good mothers to our children, but our children, in addition to being assessed on gurgling skills by government “practitioners” with clip-boards, would be taught at age five that gays are perfectly normal and fine and it’s really, like, cool to have two mums or two dads.

“The purpose of the project is to support schools in meeting their requirements under the Equality Act,” said Dr. Elizabeth Atkinson, lecturer in social and educational inquiry at Sunderland University, “which will require all public institutions to meet the needs of gay and lesbian users.”

Yeah, because there are so many gay and lesbian 5-year-olds using primary schools aren’t there? You dumb fucking cunt.

Any sane society would shoot cunts like her, but instead, in Shite Britain, she is given a voice and the minds of hundreds of children for her fuckwitted social experiment.

And this is only costing us British taxpayers £600,000.

posted by Duncan Idaho @ 9:13 PM

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At 9:50 PM, Anonymous said…

Stupid is one word for it or 2 fucking ridiculous. When you’re 4 you barely know anything how on earth do they expect kids so young to understand about being gay? This country is so buggered. Everythings all 10x worse.

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At 10:54 PM, Anonymous said…

Show me a faggot or a lesbian and i’ll show you a paedophile.

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At 12:14 AM, HAWKEYE said…

fuck these evil people, how does logic give preference to a minority over the majority,its fuckin insane

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At 12:24 AM, Jim Sipco said…

Mate, I am amazed more and more by how fucked up England is. Time to come to Oz. We’ve got shitty socialist scum Labor as well but *nothing* like you have.

They tried the 2 Mums book on the govt owned ABC TV show Romper Room and the storm of protest made them pull their heads in quick smart.

We’ve got plenty of faggots but they’re strictly for Mardi Gras not enforcing their Aids infested culture on the rest of us.

From the descendant of Irish convicts its hard to say but..God save England.

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At 1:20 AM, blah blah someone said…

anonymous:
Show me a faggot or a lesbian and i’ll show you a paedophile.

That’s really rational thinking.

Yes, teaching 4 year olds about homosexuality or sexuality in general is profoundly fucking stupid. But if you, Duncan, are claiming that homosexuals are abnormal in the sense that they pose some sort of grave threat to humanity, I’d like to hear some rational reasons. So far I have not heard one single good reason for homophobia.

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At 2:21 AM, Tom o’ the Woods said…

I have believed for a long time that to have a reasonable idea of what the future holds a person should read George Orwell’s “1984” and Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World”. Reading posts such as these further reinforces my belief which scares the hell out of me. In the past I have been a fairly left leaning person however I now find myself thinking more about individual freedom as it would allow the better implementation of that increasingly quaint notion of “Common sense”. To even consider brainwashing four year olds with politically correct ideas about sexuality seems insane. To seriously make attempts to realise such an idea is incomprehensible. The same goes for the state’s testing of a one year old’s development. As soon as I have enough money I am heading for the hills, dissociating myself as much as possible from the craziness of modern Western society. Women really can have it all as I want no part in it.

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At 4:00 AM, Anonymous said…

Eternal Bachelor, I am a MRA and proud of it – I hate feminism a hell of a lot. However, I am also bisexual [and mildly transgendered] and I’m slightly worried about these homophobic elements that have been creeping into some MRA blogs recently.

To be honest, I don;t know why you’re moaning that kids are able to be taught about LGBT people. I mean 6%-10% of the UK is gay/lesbian, 2%-5% are transgendered and its hard to get exact statistics on the number of bisexuals but its probably quite a few. I mean, I had to come to terms with my sexuality with no help from my school or friends and to be honest, it didn’t exactly help me – if I’d have had information from a younger age, I’d probably be in a lot better state than I’m in now. I find it hilarious that you quote the mail which goes on about a ‘homosexual lifestyle’ – LGBT people are one of the most diverse groups around… I bet you still think they all fit the stereotypes of butch women and mincing queens. You are REALLY misinformed!

I know Blair is a bastard but to give him his credit, the only area where he’s done any good is in the area of LGBT rights: equal gay age of consent, end of ‘section 28’ [something which you seem to support for some strange reason],civil partnerships, Sexual orientation regulations etc… As for spending £600,000 on it, I’m glad Blair’s spending it on education rather than ID cards, smoking bans or any other totalitarian crap he seems to like.

Anonymous 10:54pm…. If you look at the statistics, the majority of paedophiles are heterosexual. As for using terms like ‘faggot’, its really quite unnecessary. I mean if this was about any other topic (eg: race, disability etc….) would you use such inflammatory and ignorant language?

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At 9:46 AM, Fred X said…

The most depressing thing about this is that I’m NOT surprised

Says it all doesn’t it.

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At 10:03 AM, Anonymous said…

How wonderful. Now little children will learn how anal fucking is done , I assume? Because that is what homosexuality ist all about: anal fucking.

Why not teaching them bestiality and pedophily too, hey these are just the next step.

Britain is totally destroyed. I understand why more and more parents do not want to put their children into public schools.

This is madness. Teach them something worthy: reading, behaving, being polite, math, hunting fishing etc.

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At 10:08 AM, Paul Parmenter said…

The cost will be far, far more than a measly £600,000, once the programme gets underway and meets the inevitable resistance. There will be monetary costs that will run into millions once the lawyers get to work. Then the costs of monitoring as central and local governments create more pseudo-jobs at taxpayers expense to ensure the new curriculum is enforced and recalcitrant schools and parents are hauled off to court.

Then of course the unmeasured cost in ruined lives as more and more confused and mixed-up kids get put through the propaganda machine and chewed up. Put a controversial message in front of young children, and they will inevitably be provoked into discussing it and making comments to each other. Cue the playground snoops who will listen in and decide that little Johnny is not properly on-message, so needs correctional treatment.

Not to mention that proportion of the poor little devils who out of their newly-awakened curiosity decide to try to act out what they are being taught, and get caught looking into each other’s trousers and up skirts. Off to court with them too, and their parents; thus a few thousand more names on the sex offenders list.

Yes, a few drops of poison in the well can go a long way…

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At 10:12 AM, Anonymous said…

@anon 4:00

I know homosexuals myself. I am not one.
I tolerate them and their way of life.

But: Homosexuality is a disease, even so, today it has become something to be proud of. It is a disease like any other disorder, too.
Homosexually cite the fact that it was common among greeks, romans and animals to “prove” that it is not a disease. But it is: Take cancer. You can find this disease in animals too, but no one would ever doubt that it is a disease.

What is homosexuality among men?
Basically it is anal fucking, nothing else.
There is no reason to teach that.
Heterosexuality at least results in children. Homosexuality is useless, and I hope that people will be able to heal that disease.

Of course you never read these thoughts in the media.

I do not hate homosexuals, I just cannot stand it when they claim to be normal. They are not normal.
So this is no homophoby.

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At 1:26 PM, Lisa said…

I think the sexual messages in general our kids receive at an early age is over the line. Society feels the need to keep getting more and more specific because it has already shared too much information to begin with.

What’s amazing is how the public reacts to a nursing mother who is using her ta-tas in accordance with how God built her. And let me tell you, it’s the women who react with the most distaste. Kids seeing a nursing mother are somehow damaged yet the beasts popping out of the bodices of their favorite cartoon characters are no big deal. Really messed up.

Tango Makes Three is actually a true story about two male penguins in a zoo who essentially adopted a baby penguin…took him under their wing, so to say. It really didn’t have to have a sexual message at all. It was written in a way where you could read into it whatever you choose. Many (on both sides) are choosing to make it some sort of statement for gay relationships. Why do we do this to our kids? Can’t they just read a book about two animals loving and taking care of a stray together? It’s our sick adult minds that have to try to create messages for them when none are needed.

When I was a kid, we had 2 male cats who used to lick each other’s ears and curl up together on the floor. I saw it as two cats who liked each other. It was something to go awwwww over. These days, someone would write a book for kids suggesting Oliver and Shadow were feline lovers living out their true sexual orientation. Stupid. I can seem some parents now being sure their only have male & female pairs for pets so they can teach their kids the right kind of sexual messages. I mean, having 2 male dogs or two female cats will clearly promote a homosexual lifestyle for their kids. Insane!!!! We are robbing our kids of their childhood and sexually assaulting them whether we’ve laid a hand on them or not.

I’m not a weirdo recluse. However, I’m more and more tempted to eventually homeschool my kids. I just don’t see how to shelter kids from all of the crap that is mainstream filth.

By the way, I don’t think we can hang pedophilia on homosexuals’ shoulders. There are plenty of heterosexuals out there mishandling kids. It’s everyone’s problem and we all need to get good and angry over it.

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At 5:38 PM, Anonymous said…

Government is the ultimate pedophile.

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At 6:08 PM, Anonymous said…

How many children have been homosexually buggered but never bothered to go to the authorities? It is obvious homosexuals are making a big push for recruitment among the very young. This is blatant sexualization of the young by people who obviously want something more than just education(indoctrination being a more truthful action) of them about it. As stated, show me a homosexual and i’ll show you someone who wants to bugger little children. This article proves that point unless you have stuck your head in the sand. And yeah hetros do it, but they’re almost always caught and/or reported.

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At 8:39 PM, Lisa said…

Anon @6:08, you do bring an excellent point to the table about same sex predator/victim scenarios not being reported as often. This isn’t just true when the victim is a child. Even adult men are hesitant to come forward when raped by a man. We may never know the true statistics in this.

It’s interesting you view these books as a recruitment tool? I’ve felt them to be more an avenue to legitimize gay relationships and make it easier for the kids who find themselves with non-traditional parental units. I’ve also seen them as a mechanism for making gay relationships seem more mainstream to promote broader rights and recognition. I’ve never really considered homosexuality something one is recruited into. Perhaps I’m naive. Those who I know who are homosexuals seem to be so to the core. I don’t view it as something people do but something people are. Of course, the whole homosexual discussion got me into a sticky situation here a few months back. Peter the Fruit and a few other anonymous posters were suggesting women being mean or abusive made men gay. I still feel there is a biological factor at play. I was violated by a man as a child yet have zero desire to be intimate with women. I think it has to be a part of you for any event to trigger a homosexual lifestyle. I also think it would take more than a book about penguins.

That said, I’m not advocating for these books in the least. Again, I think we can tell stories to kids without having to get into who is sexually linked to whom and why. I just don’t see why adults need to bring their bedrooms to kids’ classrooms.

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At 9:10 PM, Off Centre View said…

I’m not yet that old, but I do remember when education used to be about maths, reading, writing and all that sort of thing.

Where does teaching four year olds about homosexuality come into this equation? I’m fairly conservative myself, but I’ve had gays friends and have treated them as any other friends. As for four year olds, I’m no expert, but do they have the mental maturity to consider the complex (and controversial) issues of human sexuality? I would think not.

While there is an argument to stop “prejudice”, as it may be, I cannot see why the government wants to push this argument so much. If anything, it gives less time for teaching anything of practical use (like the basics of maths etc). No wonder so many school kids enter university unable to read or write properly – they are being brainwashed a load of junk ideology all the time, without the masculine discipline to correct them.

Lisa, your argument about the use of books such as the penguin one is a very good one. Four year olds can read, or have read to them, that book and use it to not begrudge kids brought up by two parents of the same sex (it’s not the kid’s decision who brings it up anyway). It can subtley hint at things without the ‘hitting over the head’ argument that the government seems to be favouring.

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At 3:43 AM, Anonymous said…

The heterophobes commenting here don’t surprise me. “Homophobia” is saying something the homos don’t like.

It’s true that in absolute numbers, most pedophiles are heterosexual. It’s not true proportionately. Homosexuals, as a percentage, far out represent themselves as child molesters.

Homosexuality is perversion. Of course that makes me a “homophobe”, that is, somebody who doean’t toe the homosexual line. I disagree, therefore I’m “fearful” of their sickness.

You as an individual may be a good person. Many of you are. Enough of you arn’t. Enough of you are sick bastards. Not normal.

That everything under the sun has to be average is the biggest indictment against Western Civilization today. Not everything is equally ok. Some things are demonstrated better than others. Some cultures are better than others. Some political systems are better than others. Some societies are better than others. Some people are better than others. Etc.

This is why the West is dying. We’ve lost the ability to say we are better. We were. We are. We won’t be for long.

Alas.

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At 9:10 AM, Anonymous said…

Homosexual males are much more prone to look for young boys. One reason might be, that the homosexual is NOT looking for a mate with whom to get children. he is looking for sth different.

A heterosexual male like myself is not just looking for sex, but always in search of a fertile woman, which means able to bear children.
And fertile means young but obviously not TOO young.

Revealingly organisations like NAMBLA promote homosexual men boy relations. There is no known org who promotes men girl relations.

Homosexuals have a serious disorder, they simply fail to acknowledge it and never hear it in public because no one has the courage to tell them.
This disorder might not be always dangerous but it certainly is a disorder.

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At 1:29 PM, blah blah someone said…

How wonderful. Now little children will learn how anal fucking is done , I assume? Because that is what homosexuality ist all about: anal fucking.

Anal sex is about anal sex. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. You probably didn’t know this, but straight people have anal sex too. And no, I don’t see any reason to assume that 4 year old will be taught about anal sex.

Why not teaching them bestiality and pedophily too, hey these are just the next step.

How are they the next step? They are unrelated. I imagine that logical thinking is not one of your strengths.

This is madness. Teach them something worthy: reading, behaving, being polite, math, hunting fishing etc.

They already teach reading and math in school. Didn’t you know that?

What is homosexuality among men?
Basically it is anal fucking, nothing else. There is no reason to teach that.

Yes, of course. They will teach children how to have anal sex. Obviously that’s exactly what they will do. I mean, obviously. Anyone can see that.

Homosexuality is a fact, you can’t make it go away by not talking about it. No, it’s not necessary to talk about it with children, but it can’t be ignored forever.

I do not hate homosexuals, I just cannot stand it when they claim to be normal. They are not normal.

Would you tell a cancer patient that he isn’t “normal?” No, you wouldn’t. In the context of sexual orientation they are not normal (they deviate from the standard), but that’s as far as it goes, at least from a biological point of view.

As stated, show me a homosexual and i’ll show you someone who wants to bugger little children.

I think you’re confusing pedophilia with homosexuality, but I guess the education in the UK must be so bad that I can’t even expect you to know the difference.

What the fuck does homophobia have to do with anti-feminism anyway?

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At 3:14 PM, Anonymous said…

@blah blah 1:29

Homosexuality is a disorder it is not an orientation. Something is an orientation when the person does not feel pressure to do it. Actually homosexuals have great difficulties to be normal.

Of course a cancer patient is not normal. That is the reason why we treat him. Telling him that he is normal and thus do not need any treatment would be inhuman and stupid.
Being black is normal, being white is normal, having red hair is normal. Being a homosexual or being ill is NOT normal.
A homosexual is not normal either but he does not receive treatment.

Homosexuality is at its foundation just anal sex. There is nothing else. So if you teach children about homosexuality why would you want to omit anal sex?

Maybe because no homosexual admits in public, that what he does is just putting his penis in the rectum of another man in order to ejaculate? Maybe people would ask him why he is doing such a crap?

There is another reason why it is a bad idea to “teach” children about homosexuality. Children do not understand what love for adults means. Let me explain: when you are young and you read about a princess who marries a prince, you will never think about sex, because you do not know what it is.
The same thing applies for children who read about a homosexual prince marrying a prince. Knowing nothing about sex they will not ask questions and simply listen to the story.

Growing up there is no reason that their perception of homosexuality as a disorder might have changed, because it is only then, that they will be old enough to understand what love/sex is about.

In most forums and sadly now even in medical science, people have become blackmailed by homosexual groups into believing that being gay is not a disorder, but somehow an “orientation”.
Anyone who argues against it is labeled as homophobic and being censored.
Thanks to Duncan this page is not censored.

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At 4:43 PM, unpleasant bitter git said…

Oh well, what can you do?

If you can’t beat em’, join em’.

I hear there’s quite a bit of money in childrens books these days so I’m gonna jump on the gravy train and write one myself.

This is the working title of my book in progress:

‘Skanky: The Little Crack Whore That Could’

What do you think?

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At 4:53 PM, Anonymous said…

blah blah someone wrote:

“What the fuck does homophobia have to do with anti-feminism anyway?”

Quite a lot, actually. The explicit goal of feminism is to destroy masculinity and subjugate men to female rule. Promotion of homosexuality as a perfectly normal and viable lifestyle is a very effective means of doing so, as it is nothing but a corruption and perversion of the masculine spirit, thus rendering men far more susceptible to the relentless PC onslaught. This is what the gay agenda, feminism and all other leftist social engineering programs are all about: the systematic destruction of people to the point where they are nothing but weak-willed, morally bankrupt scum who pose no threat to the ruling elite.

Go read the SCUM Manifesto — the author makes it very clear that homosexuals and radical feminists are natural partners in crime.

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At 8:50 PM, blah blah someone said…

Homosexuality is a disorder it is not an orientation. Soemthing is an orientation when the person does not feel pressure to do it. Actually homosexuals have great difficulties to be normal.

It is an orientation. Everyone knows that.

Of course a cancer patient is not normal. That is the reason why we treat him. Telling him that he is normal and thus do not need any treatment would be inhuman and stupid.

When someone says that a gay person is not “normal,” it strongly indicates that he’s some sort of abnormal freak that should be tossed into a gas chamber or at the very least locked in a psych ward. And how far do you want to take this normality argument anyway? Is a person with bad eyesight abnormal? Does acne make someone abnormal? How would you define normal?

Homosexuality is at its foundation just anal sex. There is nothing else. So if you teach children about homosexuality why would you want to omit anal sex?

Why the fuck are you even debating this, when you are so utterly clueless as to think that homosexuality is anal sex and nothing more? It’s a sexual orientation, no different from heterosexuality. Going by your logic, heterosexuality is about vaginal sex.

Maybe because no homosexual admits in public, that what he does is just putting his penis in the rectum of another man in order to ejaculate? Maybe people would ask him why he is doing such a crap?

And here I was, thinking that heterosexuals practise anal sex as well, but thankfully you have corrected my misguided and outdated views.

In most forums and sadly now even in medical science, people have become blackmailed by homosexual groups into believing that being gay is not a disorder, but somehow an “orientation”.

That’s because it is an orientation. Yes, you can think of it as a disorder, but is a disorder, any disorder, inherently something that makes someone less human, or a bad person?

Quite a lot, actually. The explicit goal of feminism is to destroy masculinity and subjugate men to female rule. Promotion of homosexuality as a perfectly normal and viable lifestyle is a very effective means of doing so, as it is nothing but a corruption and perversion of the masculine spirit, thus rendering men far more susceptable to the relentless PC onslaught.

Explain how homosexuals undermine your masculinity. They certainly haven’t affected me. Perhaps you need to come out of the closet?

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At 9:40 PM, Anonymous said…

“This is why the West is dying. We’ve lost the ability to say we are better.”

Exactly right. Cultural relativism and Marxism are one in the same and this belief is intended to destroy the concept of nationhood.

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At 1:20 PM, the sad geek said…

@anonymous 3.14 PM

Homosexuality is a disorder it is not an orientation. Something is an orientation when the person does not feel pressure to do it. Actually homosexuals have great difficulties to be normal.

Let’s do the bigotry test, shall we?

Religion is a disorder it is not an orientation. Something is an orientation when the person does not feel pressure to do it. Actually believers have great difficulties to be normal.

You test positive for STD (Sexual Tolerance Disorder), Sir. I recommend anal sex three times a day. That’ll loosen you up.

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At 5:33 PM, Anonymous said…

Isn’t it interesting that, just as kids at earlier ages are sexualized via government mandate, they are also increasingly treated and tried as adults? Anyone remember the recent news article about the six year old who was charged with “sexually harassing” his teacher?

When you accept the notion that these laws are actually designed to purposely break the system, it all starts to make more sense. In a society where everybody is an asocial, amoral deviant, absolute government control is readily justified.

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At 8:13 PM, Anonymous said…

Revealingly organisations like NAMBLA promote homosexual men boy relations. There is no known org who promotes men girl relations.

I don’t know about IRS-approved 403(b) non-profit educational organizations, but there are web sites:
http://www.annabelleigh.net
http://www.glgarden.org

There’s even a woman-girl web site:
http://www.bkgirls.net

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At 12:51 AM, Mamonaku187 said…

Tom o’ the Woods said,

“To even consider brainwashing four year olds with politically correct ideas about sexuality seems insane.”

My point exactly.

They are CHILDREN. No one, especially the State, should be influencing children to hold a specific viewpoint one way or the other.

As a Christian, my children WILL NOT be subjected to such garbage. I will homeschool them first.

Anon 4:00am said,

“I am a MRA and proud of it – I hate feminism a hell of a lot. However, I am also bisexual [and midly transgendered] and I’m slightly worried about these homophobic elements that have been creeping into some MRA blogs recently…”

Fear not. You and I have no beef, and we both oppose feminism.

I will respect your point of view, and I will not use inflammatory language.

However, the Government (American in my case) WILL respect my point of view, and will not educate my children about sexual matters.

I will handle all that myself.

And as Fred X said…

I’m not surprised to see this either.

This “program” is just the next step on our road to Hell.

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At 9:34 AM, Anonymous said…

I love it, how homosexuals claim not to have a sexual disorder.

Especially how they always twist scientific knowledge into “intolerance”.

This way they will never be healed.

Sometimes ago, scientist tried to understand why sheep become homosexual. Instantly gay groups attacked them for saying they were considering homosexuality to be a disorder.
Well it is, and quite a serious one.
No species would survive if people were all homosexual.
These scientists had to explain that they were not trying to heal homosexuality.

Homosexuals even influence scientific research now. Instead of acknowledging that they have a sexual disorder.
Hey, when I need viagra, i have a disorder, too. But at least I am not making a lifestyle out of it.

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At 9:46 AM, Anonymous said…

It si clearly a disorder for men to be attracted to men. There is no doubt about it. Sadly homosexuals accomplished a change in public perception: while a lack of erection is still viewed as a disorder that needs treatment, homosexuality which is much more serious is called an “orientation”.

Any people who speak up against this twisting of facts is called a homophobic.

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At 7:51 PM, Lisa said…

Isn’t it interesting that, just as kids at earlier ages are sexualized via government mandate, they are also increasingly treated and tried as adults? Anyone remember the recent news article about the six year old who was charged with “sexually harassing” his teacher?

And isn’t this just the saddest thing. Great point Anon@5:33.

I so often hear how ‘grown up’ kids are these days. No they aren’t. They are more immature and irresponsible than ever. They seem grown up b/c they are so sexualized.

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At 10:01 PM, blah blah someone said…

That’s because you are homophobic. You have no rational arguments againts homosexuality.

Personally, I don’t loose any sleep over the matter. Why should I care about what gay people are doing or not doing? Why should you care?

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At 6:29 PM, Anonymous said…

@blabla

As I said: you are twisting facts.
I am not homophobic by saying that homosexuality is a disorder. It is a fact.

I care, because homosexuals have twisted science and public perception in such a way that no one dares to say the truth any more.

Of course, it is not really of importance.

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At 11:08 PM, other said…

Lisa said…

“I so often hear how ‘grown up’ kids are these days. No they aren’t. They are more immature and irresponsible than ever. They seem grown up b/c they are so sexualized.”

Very well put Lisa. I agree completely.

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