20 April 2007
Before feminism, females would generally marry young, often before turning 20. Thus they gave most of their prime and fertile years (16 – 24) to a husband who – assuming he was a good husband, and most were – would be loyal to her and give to her the best and most productive of his years by providing for her.
Now, of course, most women want to marry later, often past 25 or even 30. There is talk of the ‘eleven-year party gap’ in some women’s articles, whereby women sleep around for a decade after leaving University then marry at 32. Once they’re all used up. That’s the plan anyway, none of the articles along these lines seem to mention post-31 women who went along this route and managed to find a devoted hubby, they just talk to the deluded party-girls in their twenties who insist everything will all go to plan.
I hear plenty of young women at work talk of putting off marriage, one even getting worried when she thought (incorrectly, as it turned out) that her boyfriend was planning on proposing to her.
“No way am I getting married now,” the 22-year-old said, “I won’t marry until I’m at least 26. After all, what if someone better comes along in that time?”
Another young woman insisted – in all seriousness – that “40 is a good age for a woman to marry.”
Not all women use these youthful years to sleep around wantonly, but plenty do. One 24-year-old woman at work is apparantly on her third boyfriend of the year already and it’s only April (she is talking of wanting to get married soon, but that’s probably because she had an illegitimate kid by some thug a couple of years ago, and she no doubt wants a stepfather for the bastard.) The article I posted about a few weeks ago, about the ‘eleven-year party gap’, quoted one woman of 23 who bragged of sleeping with 40 men.
One woman I dated a few years ago (and ditched after just the one date) happily told me over dinner an anecdote of getting yelled at and grounded by her parents when she was 13 ‘because I was always sneakin’ out and getting drunk with these older guys from school who I hung out with and who bought me and me mates booze.’
Yeah, I can figure what ‘hung out with’ means. She and her drunken mates were getting some of the old in-out from these older guys. This woman was 27, so she’d evidently been humping away for fourteen-years. Eew! Swiftly-nexted. Pronto.
Basically, with women putting off marriage and wanting to party around until they’re getting on a bit, this means that, in having a relationship with a woman these days, in most cases a man has two roles he may play;
(a) the guy who has a casual sexual relationship or even just a steamy one-night stand with the woman when she is in her prime years.
(b) the sucker who is lumbered with marrying and supporting her for life once she is past her prime, getting saggy and has a used up cunt that has seen more traffic than the M25. And probably some STDs as well.
It is incredible that these marriage-delaying ex-party-girls are so puzzled as to why they are swiftly deserted by men when they get older and start talking of wanting to settle down.
After all, look at the two options above. What man in his right mind would put his heart and soul into being eligible for the second role?
That’s why women are dominating University places. The only reason for a guy to get heavily in debt and waste his time at University is to render himself eligible for option (b). Fuck that, sayeth men!
The best options for men these days with regards to relationships with the sorry excuses for ‘ladies’ in this post-feminist society is simple:
(a) Fuck-and-chuck them
(b) Ignore them and do something you find more rewarding, whether it’s playing video games, hanging out with mates, building your own house from scratch, watching porn or whatever.
Just don’t marry or co-habit. There are no benefits and no rewards, so no point.
posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:04 PM
At 5:52 PM, Outcast Superstar said…
Great Post Duncan!
I was a sucker to be had through the age of 22. Thankfully for me they blew me off has being boring. At age 23 thanks to the internet I learned all about them. In fact they may call this women’s liberation but I call it men’s liberation because many of us were going to be stuck with supporting a old nagging woman. Thanks to the slutish behavior by these women, many men including me were able to wake up before it was too late. I was manipulated into being a life long wage slave but because of their whorish behavior during the prime years they have woken up. They managed to fuck something up that was clearly to their advantage and no I will not be there for them when they are used up in their 30’s. In fact Western Women have liberated me beyond there wildest dreams.
P.S. I’m posting here my famous Fuckers and Suckers piece here for those who have not read it. It’s fitting to put this piece here.
After reading the nomarriage ebook, the author talks about two groups of men fuckers and suckers.
Keep in mind western women love excitement and hate boredom. When they are in their teens and early 20’s they don’t want stability that suckers have to offer because that is boring.
Keep in mind that women don’t think for themselves but decisions on who they date or sleep with is usually made by the council not by the woman herself. This council is usually made up of her mother, sister, and friends etc. If dating a nice guy is not considered to be fun and popular by the “council” he is going to get snubbed.
There is another group of guys called fuckers. Women love to have sex with these guys during their prime years. Although they offer no stability to these women, however women will still sleep with them. The reason why women will is because they are unpredictable and therefore they are deemed as very exciting.
Once these women get to there late 20’s – early 30’s they will fraudulently sell their looks to suckers who make a good income in order to get married. In other words they will put on a pony show for them until they get the ring. After a few years of marriage, these women are going to get bored and everything is the suckers fault. They will look for affairs and cash out on their suckers knowing that they will get the house, child support (if they have children), and alimony. All she has to do is file a false abuse charge (no proof necessary) to make all this happen. Even as a bonus, the sucker even gets to pay for her attorney fees.
Also, remember guys a women’s fertility starts to decline at age 27 not in her 30’s and 40’s. If any of you want to start a family I highly recommend to make sure that the woman you are going to start a family with is no older than 25.
Despite their not being any legal justice in this country, Mother Nature has a justice of her own.
Those suckers who once ached for these women will lose interest in them once they get to be in their mid to late 20’s. The last thing they are going to find attractive are used up women in their late 20’s-30’s. In fact these women must be avoided at all cost. They got a disease called baby rabies. They are going to do everything possible to get pregnant and trap you into a long term relationship where they can get provided for.
However, once those “suckers” get financially stable they will get to travel to foreign countries and enjoy beautiful women. Also, while in the United States, they will have developed fun hobbies to do when they are not working. In fact these “suckers” will not have to deal with the stress of fear of divorce, a nagging whore, false abuse and rape chargers, get to keep their sanity and money, won’t have to worry about raising kid that aren’t theirs etc.
However, the women who neglected the “suckers” in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years are going to have to face justice. It’s not legal justice but Mother Nature justice. Once they get to their late 20’s for every year a man ages, they will be aging by two years. They will wrinkle and get ugly very fast. Investing thousands of dollars in makeup in order to form a bond with a “sucker” is not going to get the job done because they failed to form a bond with a “sucker” during their prime years. Their biological clocks will be ticking and they will get very desperate. They are going to want to be talking care off, like living off a “sucker” so they won’t have to work. Disgusted by their behavior, the “suckers” will not want anything to do with them and will rebuke them. They are going to have to work long hours for the rest of their life because they could not find a “sucker” to take care of them. They will whine and complain that the “suckers” will not commit despite them snubbing them in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years. They will rot all alone with no one to take care of them, many of them will not get to have children, and will be living very miserable lives until death all because they thought it was cute to let the “suckers” rot all alone while they go squander their prime years to the “fuckers” That my friends is what I call justice!
At 6:11 PM, CanuckGuy said…
Damn Right. Nothing more need be said.
At 6:49 PM, Egghead said…
Impeccable and incontrovertible logic, as always, Duncan.
At 6:56 PM, Phoenix said…
There’s really no way to know if a woman is a skank, she’ll make sure her friends hush up and she will hide it herself. So a skank in her early 20s can fairly easily, if she wants to, land a husband. A lot of women are skanks by their late teens even, but there’s next to nothing anyone can do about that either.
When a woman starts getting into her late 20s though, and isn’t married, even the dimmest male light bulb usually realizes why, and it helps the women’s attractiveness is near gone at this point.
Still, it’s something like 2 out of 3 women are married now. I don’t know what the male rate is, but of course I assume it is similar. When it gets to something like 1 out of 10 are married, we’re getting somewhere.
At 7:52 PM, Anonymous said…
Lets see, for the same cost do I want a dated, worn out clunker that everyone and his brother has test driven and is only few years from the junk heap or a shiny new model that I get to be the first to drive and enjoy for many years. Tough choice there.
At 9:38 PM, Phoenix said…
Seriously, in my late teens/early 20s I was all for commitment, but to every woman I met that was too much and too serious. It’s fairly clear they had the choice there, don’t blame me afterwards for it. I gave you the chance, you couldn’t take it seriously, and now I can’t take any of you seriously myself.
Now here’s the thing some of you are missing. Most of these girls weren’t sluts at that age, they just were against a structured monogamous long term relationship. Years later they may be used up, but, what is the point of marrying a woman at this age when you are older? The mentality of these women doesn’t change, they simple can not be expected to settle down until their thirties, when they’re worthless to everyone. Society has to manipulate and force women to be faithful, it’s not their natural tendency at all, despite how good they may be otherwise.
So Outcast is right, women’s liberation will actually wind up liberating men. Sure, women are no longer “oppressed” for that decade or so of their prime years, but in exchange, men are no longer oppressed for not only their decade of prime earning years, but the 3 to 4 decades after that! Women traded away ten years for about 50! Only to a woman does that trade off make sense.
And Duncan, this image verification thing is really annoying. It seems to randomly accept the verification, half the time it rejects it.
At 1:08 AM, Outcast Superstar said…
I disagree with you that a women’s prime years last for 10 years. In my opinion their prime years last for the 5 years for the majority of them. If they took good care of their bodies, then the length of their prime years could stretch to ten years. Most women are lazy, don’t like work and want other people to work for them. As a result most women won’t be able to hold their beauty for 10 years.
The good hardworking men who will end up being the ones who are financially stable to support a family will be forming their opinions about women in their late teens and early twenties. Once they form their opinions about them it will be set in stone and it won’t change. This takes place as they are approaching their mid twenties. Women will have to try to form a bond with a good hardworking man between ages 16-22. If they are lucky, maybe they could get away with 23-25. Even that could be stretching it a bit as more and more good harding men’s opinion will be set in stone if they were mistreated by women in earlier years.
In essence women are not “oppressed” for those 5 or 6 years but in return men won’t be “oppressed” for the next 5 or 6 decades.
At 2:12 AM, Anonymous said…
That was a great post, best I’ve seen in a couple of weeks. This needs to be turned into a website not a blog so that these nuggets are easily found in the future. It’d be a shame for this to disappear into the blog dateline. This was a fucking great post Duncan, fucking encapsulates it all perfectly. These used up cunts need to be able to see in ten years we were on to them in 2007 so don’t let this sort of material disappear into the history of the blog. Keep pushing the message this is great.
At 2:31 AM, Anonymous said…
“That’s a tradeoff women only understand” I chuckled out loud in my bachelor pad when I heard that that’s pretty fucking true.
Seriously when you look at it all and realise the severity of the decay here it really is apparent that the west in a total freefall, and as i’ve mentioned before, the “unliberated” fucking worker bees of asia and the muslim slaves will want to be feminists and will become feminists in the next half century so then the whole global society will be in freefall. Couple this with the environment being fucked and who among you would even care if you found out you were infertile? Bringing a child into this is horrific.
The bleeding heart mangina fucks among you would disagree Im sure but get fucked.
And watching global politics over the next fifty years is just watching a sideshow of a bunch of fools trying to organise and manage the human and natural resources that are in total fucking freefall.
There is nothing left to do but scalp and gouge all you can out of the stock prices of corporations profiting from the manic worker bee factory farm cunts that are the chinese and indians, bank a heap of dough, and get your digital camera and travel the world and fucking enjoy this fucking dying insane planet before you fucking die with it.
I love life, I love myself, I love the achievements of the great male minds of history that I love reading about, I love money, I love free time, I love watching drugged up runaways get fucked on covermyface.com I love laughing at fat bovine femininity with their meulling fucking fat cabbage patch cunts in tow, I love life motherfuckers and best of all im one selfish fucking prick if there ever was one and I fucking love it. Laugh it up boys that’s all you can do.
Who the FUCK wants the impure shite on offer at the meatmarket. The whores have VD, the meat’s got mad cow, the dog food’s got poison in it, the air is acid rain, the store has sold out of dustmasks, condom sex is a fucking waste of time, nature has said it’s time to close up shop in the next hundred years or so, the golden age is over, fucking deal with it, go and see the fucking world, go and take your man-seat, and watch the show. Deck your fucking bachelor pad out with a single seat vibrating top of the range recliner, get a plasma screen and fucking watch the jetlagged world get out of a limo with no panties on and cum on its face with a devilish laugh. They just installed an 80 year old pope! Hahahahahhahahha hahahahahahhaha
At 3:07 AM, JadedGuy said…
When a man reaches his 30s, the hormone-driven delirium of his twenties starts to fade. Some here may know of the phrase “beer goggles” … well, the hormone goggles start to sleep off a man’s eyes when he gets older.
At 7:22 AM, Anonymous said…
“.. The sucker who is lumbered with marrying and supporting her for life once she is past her prime, getting saggy and has a used up cunt that has seen more traffic than the M25”.
At 7:55 AM, Male Rights Network said…
Outcast Superstar, the thing about Fuckers and Suckers is of course totally true.. However, until Governments actually outlaw marriage, “civil partnerships” and alter the idea of inheritance (Communist style) men will continue to marry in large numbers. We’re looking for 0% marriage rate, and it’s not going to happen as long as the option is there. It’s like the feminists said “it must be prohibited precisely because if the option is given, too many will take it… Even 10% participation is too much” (to paraphrase).. In an age of individualization and very similar employment rates (and thus incomes) for men and women, “marital aggregation” makes no sense. It does, however, make life easy for women and further the female power assumption.
In 100 years time when marriage has done all the wealth transferring it can and men no longer have any wealth to rape, that’s when feminists and Governments will wipe marriage off the statue books.
At 9:31 AM, Anonymous said…
This woman is horrible.
I hope she will never suck in a man.
At 10:09 AM, Anonymous said…
Here’s a lovely, shy teenager who it seems just wants to get married – to any Tom, Dick, or Hakim….
At 10:19 PM, Anonymous said…
Jake (31) said…
“The good hardworking men…”
Well, there’s the rub, Outcast. One of the fastest ways to get lumped into “undateable loser” status with this latest crop is to let them know you actually have to PERFORM SOME SORT OF SERVICE to keep your paychecks coming in. The days of “hardworking” being an admirable attribute are over, replaced with “ambitious” (no translation needed) as a must-have criteria. Building wealth together slowly over time through a combination of hard work and saving instead of spending 110% of your income is for suckers. I suppose I can see their point, in light of current divorce laws. It’s taken me 10 years to build up 75k in savings, a tiny bit at a time, like an ant slowly dismantling a dead beetle and carrying it off down the hole. Why put yourself through all that when you can just marry and divorce some schmuck and end up at the same spot financially in a tenth of the time?
Does this bother me, being considered a “loser” to the dating public? It used to, especially since most of my work ethic and values etc were learned from my father and both grandfathers who I looked up to as “good men” and positive role models. I saw it as an insult to me and also them by extension. Of course, now I realize being ignored by these women wasn’t due to a perceived deficit of character, they simply didn’t see enough worth stealing to bother with. Once it’s clear that many women view men as nothing more than a natural resource to be quickly strip-mined of its assets and left behind, and aren’t even CONSIDERING staying in for the long haul, the sting of rejection starts to feel more like a nice warm breeze.
At 3:24 PM, Anonymous said…
JAKE YOU SHOULD FUCKING PUT THAT MONEY IN STOCKS.
At 3:40 AM, Anonymous said…
Duncan, once again you nailed it. Only thing I would add to your take is that the number of men who can actually pursue your “a” options is unfortunately rather small. If you are lucky enough to be an alpha male, by all means “fuck ’em & chuck ’em.” Otherwise, if you’re not married by 35 don’t even bother.
Marriage is a lifetime contract in which a woman provides a young (hopefully cute) fertile body for breeding FIRST, and then a man provides support for the years after that. Of course, she runs the risk that he won’t live up to his end of the bargain, but if entered into too late, she can’t provide HER end either.
At 5:20 PM, ChicagoMan said…
To selfish Anon.
The world is not coming to an end, it isn’t anytime soon.
Every cycle of empires doomsday predictors come out and foreshadow the worse for our society. It hasn’t happened yet and it won’t happen for quite some time.
Global warming is caused by the sun. IN fact scientists just published data saying that the sun is the most active now that it has been in a thousand years. That 1000 years ago being when Vikings FARMED on Greenland. Anyone remember the huge solar flares of the last few years? Amazingly they coincided with hot temperatures.
Also these past few years HAVE NOT BEEN THE HOTTEST ever, that is a lie. It has been much hotter, many other times in earth’s history. In fact significantly higher at times. Yet, there was no runaway greenhouse effect then, and there won’t be now.
The solar activity will start to wane in a couple of decades, as it always does.
A volcano puts out more CO2 in a year than all of humanity. CO2 is also a VERY WEAK greenhouse gas. Water vapor is better, notice how much hotter it feels on a humid day?
Also changes in temperature PRECEDE changes in CO2. Thus, CO2 release does not affect temperature.
There is no direct evidence that all fossil fuels are produced solely by decaying vegetation over millions of years. This is not true at all. There is growing evidence that hydrocarbons are produced annually in the earth’s crust.
Natural gas can be produced from decaying organic matter by methanogens (methane producing bacteria).
contrary to what movies like Syriana and the gay lesbian mafia tell you, the world IS NOT running out of oil. Sure, some mid east states are pumping alot of their oil out of reservoirs in the earth and will run out in a few decades. But the country with the largest oil reserves, heck two of the countries with the largest oil reserves DO NOT tap their oil at all.
Canada has the largest oil deposits in the world in the form of shale, or oil mixed with sand. Shale oil is now cheaper to extract than what we pay for oil from mideast.
The US also sits on a very large oil deposit that is not being tapped at all in the heart of the plains and rockies. We don’t tap because we want the mideast to run out first.
The amount of shale oil in the earth’s crust is estimated to last at least a few hundred years at current growth and levels. Of course alternates will be in use before then.
Sure we are in a free fall right now, and that is good.
This thins the herds and we have people who care not about self-preservation eliminated from the gene pool.
my two cents
At 6:10 PM, Anonymous said…
Marriage was/is all about ownership, ownership of the woman, or ownership of the man’s products of labor. Marriage should be completely and utterly abolished. EB thinks these woman at his job are feminist, but they are not, no feminist would consent to having a man take care of them, or own them. These “feminists” who talk about wanting to get married are simply selfish bitches. I hate my job, but when my boyfriend suggested that I quit and that we could live on his salary (ummmm, that is 20k less than mine) I laughed. I would never consider spending his money for anything. His money is his money, and my money is his money. What the hell do I need his money for? Or his vows of marriage for that matter? Totally useless to me. Anyone who talks about being able to take care of themselves better be able to back that shit up. Most woman can’t, I agree, therefore they aren’t feminists, they need men. I’m thirty years old, and I’m not a wanna be anything, I take care of myself, and I hate all women who don’t.
At 2:05 AM, USA said…
The problem with modern western womyn is that unlike an automobile, they don’t get any cheaper as they accumulate a bunch of miles on their odometers.
A 32yr old single woman is like a car with 100,000 miles on it. You might get some more miles out of her, if she’s built well, but it is still a big gamble. Valves burn, transmissions slip, seals leak. Just the way it is.
I might be inclined to “buy” (ie. marry) a high mileage car if I could get a deep discount, but with divorce laws as they are, the 32yr old costs you as much as an 18yr old.
From what I gleaned across the Atlantic, Heather Mills was a used up skank, yet she is costing Paul McCartney a mountain of money. And of course, no matter the settlement, she still NEEDS more, to maintain the “lifestyle she is accustomed to”.
Must sell !! Ford Mustand. New paint ! 100k miles, dings, rust, burns oil, leaks coolant, stains and tears on clothe seats. Price: $35k USD. Accept payment in gold or platinum bullion coin.
The analogy isn’t perfect, because in real life, your rusty high mileage Ford Mustang is likely to drive itself away, its trunk stuffed full of savings and future earnings, representing a couple of decades of your heavily taxed labor. Assuming you are a middle class working stiff.
At 11:06 AM, Anonymous said…
It’s the legal system at fault here…bullshitting about childrens’ rights and then sucking the life out of men for losing the plot.
Trouble is..the women wouldn’t do runners if they didn’t know/learn how bent the system is…and then would not have to regret their stupidity later either.
If only women had a taste of this emotional blackmail men get in relationships- they would surely stop whingeing about their lack of rights.
Men have been too trusting and far too soft for years (all right- I know a few S.O.B.’s do exist).
Now we will watch the backlash continue…the same for abortion -another moral con trick by our wonderful political ‘top class’.
At 9:39 PM, Anonymous said…
anonymous 10:19, so true, the sting of rejection in your youth starts to feel like a nice warm breeze as you get older. You, my friend, have escaped from a potential prison cell mate in exchange for a life of freedom.
All you single guys over 30 take heed, things get better as you get older and now you will soon have the cash and free time to make things happen. No nagging, frigid, ballooning wife or smart ass disobedient children to give you grief or suck your wallet dry as your living years count down.
Every dog has his day and you will soon get yours while little cutie pie who rejected your advances while in her perky prime is panicking as her outside shell is decaying daily to match her rotten insides and she’s starting to realize that no one wants her aging ass for marriage or even a serious date anymore.
At 10:55 AM, Blademonkey said…
Guys, the picture of the “woman” sure looks like a tranny. If that’s the case, the slogan on the t-shirt makes a lot more sense.
For the record, eww….
At 11:39 AM, Anonymous said…
well – i also came up with the fuckers and suckers theme to life theory over a decade ago –
but being female.
i didn’t make it gender specific.
I still wouldn’t.
I also felt that it was something that should be better reserved for moments of bitterness, and that I should try and live my life seeking to stay out of that particular box.
I think it’s sad to make the generalisations that you are making, and I would also point out that not everything you are saying is true – and since most of it is motivated by you feeling like a sucker – then therefore tarring every woman with the fucker brush – as a frustrated form of revenge – will probably mean that even if you did meet someone beyond the bracket, you wouldn’t recognise them, because you were too busy throwing your negative projections at them.
As a woman, I’ve only ever experienced the fuckers as being male – with the ocassional jealous female fucker thrown in to the mix.
Again, in my experience, the search for someone who is a nice person and isn’t a fucker or a sucker is something that everyone shares, but just sometimes, there are practical requirements to deal with along the way.
Sometimes the suckers get upset at being constantly fucked over, so they resort to being a fucker themselves, then they meet a sucker they like and come to a mutual arrangement.
if women don’t trust men, if they don’t get treated right, what option do they have?
Where did the trust go?
I’ve always wanted to have loving committed relationships with responsible males myself, with the end aim of getting married, and having a loving secure relationship in the process, but now having arrived at 34 and having been fucked over a number of times in the process, I didn’t feel particularly heartened by your comments.
At 9:09 AM, Blademonkey said…
Anonymous @ 11:39 am….
Where did the trust go? It went when men can no longer trust women to stand by her words. It went when women believed “liberation” to be “license” and acted accordingly. It went when women arrogantly believed that the biological roles and the system that stemmed from such can be changed just by sheer force of “enlightenment”.
That’s where it went. Now men and women in the generations that followed will have to endure the blowback of such a movement.
At 4:51 AM, email@example.com said…
Watch the documentary “The Century of Self” -Video.Google
It will make sense of this whole mess.
It basically shows the transformation of our culture going from selfless to selfish.
Selfless to Selfish
Thats a golden quote!!