Dad’s not needed, says British government


17 May 2007

New fertility laws say dads not needed to make babies


A major relaxation of IVF rules was announced by ministers today.

The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive fertility treatment on the NHS.

Well, it’s official guys, we’re now officially redundant. We’re not needed now.

Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don’t want to do, being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being extorted for Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free from violent criminals…anything unpleasant basically.

But having a stake in society, a role in children’s lives, a position – at the head of it or otherwise – in the family?

Forget about it.

posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:42 PM


At 7:52 PM, Anonymous said…

The west is in decline. These are the last days. We live in the saddest time to be a man. There isn’t any women in the world. They are not women. They are unfit physically, mentally, just shells. And their life choices and behavior are an aberration of every animal to have a cunt on the planet for millions of years.

The buzz of a computer screen is a light in the darkness of slavery and treadmills. I am clearly having a bad day now.


At 8:05 PM, Inkraven said…

Can they find out who the sperm donor is and go after him for support? I remember hearing about that from one European country; I’m not sure if it was in the UK though.

As usual, feminism = equality until the check comes.


At 8:32 PM, anon said…

forget bombing abortion clinics. sperm banks need to be wiped off the earth.


At 10:54 PM, darkbhudda said…

Britain hasn’t got enough sperm donors since removing anonymity 2 years ago and the real fear of sperm donors being liable for child support which is what happened in other parts of Europe. They don’t have enough for Hetero couples as it is.


At 11:03 PM, Anonymous said…

The hypocrisy of the law is that in this article a woman get an anonymous sperm to get pregnant without a man consent. However if a woman accidentally get pregnant by a man, she can milk him for 18 years even though he may not want the baby and he has no say in the matter. So in actuality its the same thing! so why should the man pay in accidental pregnancy?


At 11:04 PM, CLovIS said…

You may find this interesting:

“Our sons don’t need a father!”


At 12:23 AM, Anonymous said…

These people are really going to pay they just keep pushing taking every reason to care about our society away from the people who have made and destroyed countless civilizations threw out time.I winder why it is they thing can keep this up with out retaliation? its going to happen in time this little unreal world they have made will come crashing down.


At 1:06 AM, Your Number 1 Fan said…

Great blog! Really funny and for a while I actually thought you hate women! But because you don’t have any comments critical of your position posted proves that it must just be tounge-in-cheek. The laughs are on me I suppose.

At least you are not one of those bloggers who censors comments when they oppose your views. Those bloggers are the worst because while they love the freedom of blogging and love posting offensive comments on blogs that don’t believe in censorship, they can’t bear the thought of anyone actually proving they are wrong and fear being engaged in good debate. They are the most cowardly losers of all. I’m sure you agree.

Keep up the good work. I’m sure you get laid without paying all the time because of your sharp wit and strong belief in freedom of speech.


At 1:45 AM, dan said…

“99.9% human and .01% animal…” hmmm, I’m sure that creature will be a normal human being, right? “….and they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breast plates as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abadon, but in the Grek tongue hath his name Apollyon. One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.” -Rev. 9:8-12

Anon 7:52, you’re right: These ARE the last days. These feminists always had a God-complex, but to mess with and play God, like they’re proposing to do, we may see some wrath poured out on fembots and manginas worldwide.


At 1:49 AM, Anonymous said…

This isn’t only another step in the eradication of fathers, but mothers too.

What the article doesn’t mention, is that one of the arguments in favour of the law change was a shortage of human egg donors for stem-cell research. Now scientists can use animal egg cells, inject them with human DNA, and let a human embryo develop for a few days before being harvested for stem-cells.

No female required.

Although there appear to be limits on how long these early-stage embryos can be kept alive, what’s obvious is that scientists’ knowledge of reproductive technology will continue to advance.

Incubators that can grow and develop human embryos will improve.

It cannot be long before these machines are routinely used in everyday medicine to save those wanted babies that would otherwise die if left to develop in the womb. Not long at all. This isn’t idle speculation, it’s a certainty. If a machine exists, and it can save a life, then it will be used.

But how soon after that till some poor, deserving woman born without ovaries, demands that her “right to have a child” require a law change allowing “her” embryos be incubated from conception to maturity in a machine? This is less certain to happen, but if it does, the distinction between women and men as far as reproduction goes will fast disappear. Being the weakest, but vital, link in the human reproductive cycle will no longer be the exploitable point of difference for women that it is now.

Men, gays and the family dog will all be able to raise a human family.

So to all you women out there who like to ask “just what purpose do men serve?”, the answer will very soon be “the same pointless one you do” (if it isn’t already).


At 1:53 AM, NHY said…

Its a sad state of affairs, man. But its belief a of mine that the people at the top are not going to stop until a genderless society ( well, not in a literal physical sense but definitely a spiritual sense ) is created.

I feel sorry for you Duncan and your once mighty country. God have mercy on you. I hope your able to get out as fast as possible or at least do something to fight this beast.



At 2:49 AM, Anonymous said…

awww, does petal need a hug?


is it a coincidence that your profile photo looks like a uterus?

just wondering


At 3:20 AM, Ack said…

Men are being used as scapegoats.
Notice how we get blamed for everything?

Not much left to do but sit back, enjoy life and watch these crazy people destroy themselves.


At 6:46 AM, Anonymous said…

The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive fertility treatment on the NHS.

See how they write single people instead of single women?

The west is indeed in decline.

Women cannot raise children properly without men and it is pure selfishness to produce a child who will not know who is his father.


At 8:58 AM, Anonymous said…

Don’t worry chaps, sperm donations are well down, since anonimity was stopped. Sperm could become a valuable commodity the way things are going.



At 9:17 AM, Hmh said…

Next step: massive, government funded and administrated childcare centres.

When that happens we are all utterly screwed… it’ll be funded from our taxes. Those men who still want traditional families won’t be able to afford them. Eternal Bachelors or guys waiting for one of the few women worth marrying will be taxed too. At that point men’s role in the family is gone – all because of some stupid 60’s notion that men didn’t care about their children.


At 10:25 AM, the sad geek said…

Apartheid, that’s the term I’m more and more inclined to use to describe this society.

What exactly still is the difference between the treatment of blacks on old South Africa and men here in the West?

I think it’s more a matter of quantity than quality. Men have become second rate citizens.


At 10:40 AM, Anonymous said…

Hi Duncan,

Check out the link above – might be worth a post?

There’s no excusing the mens’ roles in this (as if you could anyway – sick fuckers) but look how the old pussy pass comes into play for the ‘swinging’ woman who also participates.


At 2:16 PM, Patriarchal Phoenix said…

Something along this same topic

The title is:

“Our sons don’t need a father!”

From the Daily Mail


At 2:38 PM, Anonymous said…

The Christian community is waking up to the position of men and the writing on this topic has increased dramatically.

Recently, a wave of Christian feminists have been attacking men for not being wealthy and hyper-religious. They don’t understand why men are turning away, but they are starting to learn.

Check out the above link. The post reflects everything MRAs and Eternal Bachelors have been saying and thinking for years (albeit in very Christian terms).

Maybe it is too late for the churches to turn things around, but at least they are noticing now.


At 3:41 PM, Anonymous said…

Some of us ladies actually want our children to have fathers. I don’t see why you even care, with your marriage strike and all. Or do you plan on fathering children during your “fuck and chuck” method?


At 4:44 PM, paul parmenter said…

No surprise that my comment to the Daily Mail has not appeared. I simply said that nobody should believe that either the British Government or the scientific establishment has any concern with ethics.

A perfectly justifiable comment, I would have thought. With an avalanche of proof to back it up. But obviously too near the knuckle for a national rag to publish.

I actually wanted to make some unflattering remarks about Caroline Flint:

“Health Minister Caroline Flint said today she been persuaded by the arguments from the science communities and MPs.”

You bet she has. Anyone with an ethical approach would stick to their principles, because right and wrong do not change overnight.

My comment was going to be something along the lines that if you put a narrow-minded feminist bigot in charge of these vital decisions, you must expect disastrous results; but I figured that would have no chance of getting published.

It’s still true, though.


At 4:48 PM, prudhomme said…

…off topic… or may be not…
Today I received a phone call from my mum telling me that my brother-in-law Klaus had died from a heart attack yesterday. He was 46! A fine man, who worked himself into an early grave. He married my sister 16 years ago. She had a daughter already and Klaus treated her as if she was his own. I mourn for the loss of this fine guy and can´t help but think that he would be still alive if he had stayed single. My sister was financially very irresponsible (that´s why her first marriage failed) and Klaus and she had to declare personal bankruptcy lately, too. He spend the last 16 years working only to find that his wife would throw the money out of the window like there was no tomorrow.
And for him now there is no tomorrow anymore. What a senseless life, what a terrible injustice.
Rest in peace, Klaus…
Guys, don´t get sucked into a marriage to be the wage-slave of a woman… it´s not worth it!


At 5:57 PM, Anonymous said…



At 7:09 PM, Anonymous said…

“Some of us ladies actually want our children to have fathers. I don’t see why you even care, with your marriage strike and all. Or do you plan on fathering children during your “fuck and chuck” method?”

stupid cunt maybe we 1)dont want to finance single mother’s and their scum offspring and 2)dont want those potential criminal motherfucker’s robbing us and then we have to pay for their jail time, for the court , for the “rehab”.stupid bitch


At 8:14 PM, tba said…

anon@2:38 part of the problem that we men face today is DUE to the church NOT waking up to this issue long before invaded every area of society.
It is great that they are FINALLY bringing attention to this matter but had they had the guts to preach about a woman’s role in the church and her place in the family and in relation to her husband, maybe the divorce rate among Christians wouldn’t be as bad and maybe there would be more men in the pews.


At 4:11 AM, Excelsior said…

IVF should only be legal when all else fails and only for couples that consist of a man and woman. The will and the role of fathers should always be taken into account.

Children deserve a father and mother. Children shouldn’t be victims of the unnatural and strange lifestyles of lesbos.

If necessary I’ll vote for Muslim parties to terminate feminism. Muslims at least tend to protect Men’s Rights.

Eventually a Islamic age will sweeps over western and central Europe again. Nuclear families and men’s rights will be restored and feminism with their man-hating lesbians will be obliterated.


At 7:04 AM, paul parmenter said…


Very sad news about Klaus, you have my sympathy.

But reading your post, I think you have not given him full credit for something very important he did manage to achieve in his sadly shortened life. You say “She had a daughter already and Klaus treated her as if she was his own.” This means he gave that girl 16 years of effective fatherhood, that could only have done her a power of good. Many men do this – take on another man’s child and become a good father to her – usually without acknowledgment or reward.

Perhaps she will be his shining legacy and turn out better than her mother – I hope so.


At 9:22 AM, Hmh said…

This one’s to No 1 Fan:

Have you been paying attention? One of Duncan’s most common themes is this: the legal and cultural risks of being with a woman now make celibacy a reasonable choice. Even one-night stands can be terribly risky: disease, surprise pregnancies, the cops kicking your door down two weeks hence on a false rape claim after you’ve told her that you never promised anything so stop calling… I mean, come on, I can even get formally disciplined at work for asking a female colleague out.


At 9:30 AM, Hmh said…

and now to Anon 3:41 – if you want it, you’ve got to be worth it. You may be, great… but most of the women available to me are not. My not getting married “because it’s time to get married” is my decision to have a good mother for my children and a good companion for the rest of my life, rather than settling for the best of what’s available.


At 6:05 PM, Faustus said…

Clovis said…

You may find this interesting:

“Our sons don’t need a father!”

OK fine…from this point on, if we see any single cunt with a newborn child on the street, we have every right to address her as a fucking lesbo – right out loud, and to her fucking face.

After all, what could her defense be?? Anything palatable??


At 3:32 AM, Anonymous said…

The so called marriage boycott is because we DO CARE.

Workers, for example, go on strike for better working conditions because they care.

Folks boycotted the likes of Sth African apartheid precisely because they DO CARE.

Sheesh, get a clue brainiac. Its really amusing, in a disappointing way, when a woman chimes in, getsit all back to front, shoots herself in the foot and proves what men are saying.

Sheesh, we are all doomed in the midst of such brainiacs.


At 10:08 PM, Anonymous said…

You know, though you may be right in some areas, single mothers don’t really deliver babies through immaculate conception. Be it a real dad or a cup full o’ juice, it came from some guy. So stop complaining about supporting single mothers, you already got either the frolicking or the money for your “donation”. Though luck, stupid.


At 7:56 AM, Anonymous said…

Paul Parmenter said:

“A perfectly justifiable comment, I would have thought. With an avalanche of proof to back it up. But obviously too near the knuckle for a national rag to publish.”

Keep sending them in Paul. Most of mine don’t get past the sub-editors either, and I make sure they’re in ‘family language’.

Even if they don’t get published the sub-editors still have to read them, and if they get exposed to enough free, uncensored, undeniable common-sense thinking, eventually they’ll fold.

That’s how we’ll win.
Wearing ’em down.


At 6:34 AM, common sense said…

Nobody should donate or ever support the sperm banks. That will show them!


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